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[Brendan Perrine <walterorlin@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 08:57:41 -0800
Walter Lapchynski <wxl@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I'd say if Ubuntu in general considers it an edge case, it probably is.
> 
> @wxl
> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA
> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
> Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader
> On Mar 4, 2015 8:54 AM, "Nio Wiklund" <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Hi again,
> >
> > I want to add:
> >
> > 1. I really think we should have a test-case for 'Encrypted LVM'
> >
> > 2. I can think of situations, when 'Encrypted home' is a better
> > alternative. We can add such a test-case, if the Lubuntu users think it
> > is important.
> >
> > As it is now, these two test-cases would be independent, because it does
> > no longer work with them in combination. If it is important, we can ask
> > the developers to fix the bug(s) so that the original alternate
> > test-case works again.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Nio
> >
> > Den 2015-03-04 17:24, Nio Wiklund skrev:
> > > Hi Walter,
> > >
> > > Encrypted LVM is *the* test-case in all other Ubuntu flavours including
> > > Ubuntu server. I really think we should test it, not only LVM.
> > > 'Encrypted disk' is implemented via LVM.
> > >
> > > Lubuntu is a special case with 'encrypted LVM', and inside it 'encrypted
> > > home'. What I suggest is to remove 'encrypted home' from the test-case.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Nio
> > >
> > > Den 2015-03-04 17:15, Walter Lapchynski skrev:
> > >> I agree there's no reason to wait for desktop to implement the change to
> > >> alternate.  I do, however want to emphasize that encryption is more
> > >> valuable to the average user than LVM.  Maybe we should separate these
> > >> testcases for now? Then at some point in the future, we could create a
> > >> combined one.  Or is encrypted LVM a really unique case?
> > >>
> > >> @wxl
> > >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA
> > >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
> > >> Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader
> > >>
> > >> On Mar 4, 2015 8:05 AM, "Nio Wiklund" <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
> > >> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>     Den 2015-03-04 14:38, Lars Noodén skrev:
> > >>     > On 04.03.2015 14:50, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> > >>     >> Hi Walter, Lars, Phill and all other Lubuntu users
> > >>     >>
> > >>     >> I think we have a working alternative, that should be rather
> > easy to
> > >>     >> implement for the Alternate Install (Encryption) test-cases (for
> > the
> > >>     >> i386 as well as the amd64 iso files).
> > >>     >>
> > >>     >> @ Walter and Lars: Can we agree to modify the (alternate)
> > test-cases?
> > >>     >>
> > >>     >> @ Lars: ... and when agreed, will you edit the alternate
> > test-cases?
> > >>     >>
> > >>     >> @ Walter and Lars: The next step will be to design corresponding
> > >>     >> test-cases for the Lubuntu desktop iso files.
> > >>     >
> > >>     > Hi,
> > >>     >
> > >>     > I can try modifying the Alternate encryption case, if someone can
> > >>     remind
> > >>     > me of the URL to the right guide to do that, when the time
> > comes.  The
> > >>     > hard part is not the HTML but dealing with bazaar and then
> > >>     following the
> > >>     > right procedure for a pull.  Would that be for 15.04 or for 15.10?
> > >>     >
> > >>     >
> > >>
> > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/files/head:/testcases/image/
> > >>     <
> > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/files/head:/testcases/image/
> > >
> > >>     >
> > >>     > For 16.04, it would be best if the installers handled encryption
> > >>     > properly so that workarounds like dropping to the shell are not
> > needed
> > >>     > for full disk encryption.
> > >>     >
> > >>     >> ...
> > >>     >> @ everybody:
> > >>     >>
> > >>     >> Skipping 'encrypted home inside encrypted disk with LVM' makes
> > things
> > >>     >> much easier to get working. ...
> > >>     >
> > >>     > Encrypted home is probably important if there are multiple users
> > >>     or one
> > >>     > user with multiple roles on the machine.  For the full hard disk
> > >>     > encryption I see a main use-case as being work laptops that
> > travel and
> > >>     > thus at risk of being lost or stolen.
> > >>     >
> > >>     > Regards,
> > >>     > /Lars
> > >>     >
> > >>
> > >>     Hi Lars,
> > >>
> > >>     1. I hope we can agree very soon about the alternate encryption
> > >>     test-cases, and do it for 15.04, but I can fully understand, that
> > Walter
> > >>     or some other important persons may want to wait and think twice
> > before
> > >>     changing these test-cases.
> > >>
> > >>     2. What I suggested today does not imply any dropping to a shell.
> > >>     Without encrypted home the alternate test-cases will be smooth. But
> > I'm
> > >>     waiting for someone (you, Lars?) to verify my test results.
> > >>
> > >>     3. I agree that 'Encrypted home' is important if there are multiple
> > >>     users or one user with multiple roles on the machine. But must it be
> > >>     combined with encrypted disk and LVM?
> > >>
> > >>     4. I think creating the corresponding test-cases for the desktop
> > >>     installer needs more time, but modifying the alternate test-cases
> > need
> > >>     not wait for the desktop ones to be ready for publishing.
> > >>
> > >>     Best regards
> > >>     Nio
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
I also conisder that manual partitioning would be more important as I would want to employ that in production as a user more often than encryption because I don't want to lose my own data if I lose the key. 

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Brendan Perrine <walterorlin@xxxxxxxxx>