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[Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi again,

This link at Arch Linux discusses different aspects of encryption in
computers, disk encryption and data encryption (with the special case
home encryption).

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/disk_encryption

My conclusion after reading that link is that 'Encrypted disk' is better
than 'Encrypted home', so we need not push very hard to revive
'Encrypted home'.

Please speak up if you do not agree!

Best regards
Nio

Den 2015-03-04 17:57, Walter Lapchynski skrev:
> I'd say if Ubuntu in general considers it an edge case, it probably is.
> 
> @wxl
> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA
> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
> Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader
> 
> On Mar 4, 2015 8:54 AM, "Nio Wiklund" <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi again,
> 
>     I want to add:
> 
>     1. I really think we should have a test-case for 'Encrypted LVM'
> 
>     2. I can think of situations, when 'Encrypted home' is a better
>     alternative. We can add such a test-case, if the Lubuntu users think it
>     is important.
> 
>     As it is now, these two test-cases would be independent, because it does
>     no longer work with them in combination. If it is important, we can ask
>     the developers to fix the bug(s) so that the original alternate
>     test-case works again.
> 
>     Best regards
>     Nio
> 
>     Den 2015-03-04 17:24, Nio Wiklund skrev:
>     > Hi Walter,
>     >
>     > Encrypted LVM is *the* test-case in all other Ubuntu flavours
>     including
>     > Ubuntu server. I really think we should test it, not only LVM.
>     > 'Encrypted disk' is implemented via LVM.
>     >
>     > Lubuntu is a special case with 'encrypted LVM', and inside it
>     'encrypted
>     > home'. What I suggest is to remove 'encrypted home' from the
>     test-case.
>     >
>     > Best regards
>     > Nio
>     >
>     > Den 2015-03-04 17:15, Walter Lapchynski skrev:
>     >> I agree there's no reason to wait for desktop to implement the
>     change to
>     >> alternate.  I do, however want to emphasize that encryption is more
>     >> valuable to the average user than LVM.  Maybe we should separate
>     these
>     >> testcases for now? Then at some point in the future, we could
>     create a
>     >> combined one.  Or is encrypted LVM a really unique case?
>     >>
>     >> @wxl
>     >> Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA
>     >> Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact
>     >> Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader
>     >>
>     >> On Mar 4, 2015 8:05 AM, "Nio Wiklund" <nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>
>     >> <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:nio.wiklund@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>     Den 2015-03-04 14:38, Lars Noodén skrev:
>     >>     > On 04.03.2015 14:50, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>     >>     >> Hi Walter, Lars, Phill and all other Lubuntu users
>     >>     >>
>     >>     >> I think we have a working alternative, that should be
>     rather easy to
>     >>     >> implement for the Alternate Install (Encryption)
>     test-cases (for the
>     >>     >> i386 as well as the amd64 iso files).
>     >>     >>
>     >>     >> @ Walter and Lars: Can we agree to modify the (alternate)
>     test-cases?
>     >>     >>
>     >>     >> @ Lars: ... and when agreed, will you edit the alternate
>     test-cases?
>     >>     >>
>     >>     >> @ Walter and Lars: The next step will be to design
>     corresponding
>     >>     >> test-cases for the Lubuntu desktop iso files.
>     >>     >
>     >>     > Hi,
>     >>     >
>     >>     > I can try modifying the Alternate encryption case, if
>     someone can
>     >>     remind
>     >>     > me of the URL to the right guide to do that, when the time
>     comes.  The
>     >>     > hard part is not the HTML but dealing with bazaar and then
>     >>     following the
>     >>     > right procedure for a pull.  Would that be for 15.04 or for
>     15.10?
>     >>     >
>     >>     >
>     >>   
>      http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/files/head:/testcases/image/
>     <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/files/head:/testcases/image/>
>     >>   
>      <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/files/head:/testcases/image/>
>     >>     >
>     >>     > For 16.04, it would be best if the installers handled
>     encryption
>     >>     > properly so that workarounds like dropping to the shell are
>     not needed
>     >>     > for full disk encryption.
>     >>     >
>     >>     >> ...
>     >>     >> @ everybody:
>     >>     >>
>     >>     >> Skipping 'encrypted home inside encrypted disk with LVM'
>     makes things
>     >>     >> much easier to get working. ...
>     >>     >
>     >>     > Encrypted home is probably important if there are multiple
>     users
>     >>     or one
>     >>     > user with multiple roles on the machine.  For the full hard
>     disk
>     >>     > encryption I see a main use-case as being work laptops that
>     travel and
>     >>     > thus at risk of being lost or stolen.
>     >>     >
>     >>     > Regards,
>     >>     > /Lars
>     >>     >
>     >>
>     >>     Hi Lars,
>     >>
>     >>     1. I hope we can agree very soon about the alternate encryption
>     >>     test-cases, and do it for 15.04, but I can fully understand,
>     that Walter
>     >>     or some other important persons may want to wait and think
>     twice before
>     >>     changing these test-cases.
>     >>
>     >>     2. What I suggested today does not imply any dropping to a shell.
>     >>     Without encrypted home the alternate test-cases will be
>     smooth. But I'm
>     >>     waiting for someone (you, Lars?) to verify my test results.
>     >>
>     >>     3. I agree that 'Encrypted home' is important if there are
>     multiple
>     >>     users or one user with multiple roles on the machine. But
>     must it be
>     >>     combined with encrypted disk and LVM?
>     >>
>     >>     4. I think creating the corresponding test-cases for the desktop
>     >>     installer needs more time, but modifying the alternate
>     test-cases need
>     >>     not wait for the desktop ones to be ready for publishing.
>     >>
>     >>     Best regards
>     >>     Nio
>     >>
>     >
>