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Message #00213
Re: ORM Refactor [READ]
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On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Rick Clark <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Ok, guys, this has been a lively discussion, but it is time to make a
> > decision. This will be the primary topic for tomorrow's release
> > meeting. I like the patch, but I really think we need to add back redis
> > support, not because I love redis, just as a matter of how we manage
> > change in the project. The big question to me is where/when we merge it
> > and what it means to the release.
>
> I think we should merge it now. I also believe we should prioritize
> making a NoSQL driver for the Austin release if possible.
>
> > A few things to keep in mind:
> >
> > * OpenStack should avoid making technical decisions for implementers.
> > We should only mandate a technology if we have to, for reasons like
> > uniformity of the code, i.e the twisted debate, or because choice would
> > be difficult to implement.
>
> ++
>
> > * I think we should try not to take sides in contentious technical
> > issues, unless we have to. My reaction was that this change could be
> > seen to be a statement about Redis, or NoSQL in general.
>
> Yep.
>
> > * In general, if we are going to drop a major technology choice, we
> > should do it slowly, by deprecating it first. We should never go into a
> > release requiring a technology and end the release with it totally
> > unsupported. This is just not fair to our users. We will make choices,
> > but we need to ensure smooth transitions for people that have
> > implemented Openstack. I know it is less of an issue for our first
> > release, but good policy is good policy.
>
> Absolutely agreed.
> -jay
>
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