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[Parthiv Patel <parthivgls@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Eckhard,

We are going to have an IRC session on OpenERP IRC channel at 5:00 p.m CET.
Please join in if possible for more detailed discussion.

Regards,
Parthiv
On Nov 26, 2012 7:34 PM, "Eckhard Schwarzat" <e.schwarzat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>  Hi There,
>
> I am more than happy to contribute.
>
> We need to have an open discussion where we want to take Medical if we are
> bringing it 'back' into the OpenERP fold.
>
> At present Medical (GNU Health) is an excellent tool to deal with
> requirements based on hospital settings in developing countries,
> but not so much for the challenges of Health Care providers (Secondary AND
> Primary Care) in Europe and the US (and increasingly in other regions as
> well,
> due to the 'westernisation' of the populations in terms of lifestyle).
>
> Medical needs to be able to deal with the following challenges:
>
> - proper staff management: health care professionals are employees not a
> different entity
> - Analytic accounting: how much does a treatment cost?
> - Service BOM: this goes beyond Medical and is a requirement for the
> service industry in general
> - Better integration into other OpenERP modules (project/hr/etc.)
> - HL7 integration (HL7 v3 or even better HL7 Fire
> http://hl7.org/implement/standards/fhir/)
> - Ability to plan / create treatment strategy / treatment plan / treatments
> - Standardisation of patient care which means different care pathways /
> processes / workflows and the ability to design / manage these.
>   Here we are talking about an integration with tools like Bonitasoft /
> Processmaker and others into OpenERP workflows via the BPMN standard
> - Outcome measures / patient feedback based on open standards like ICF.
>
>
> To give you an idea how an open source approach into primary healthcare is
> discussed in the UK (and we have brought in OpenERP into the stack):
>
> http://www.opengpsoc.org/our-stack/
>
> Medical is mentioned there, but we are fully aware that it will 'not cut
> it', due to the points raised above.
>
> Personally, I think to port Medical back to 6.1 does not make sense at all
> (6.1 is not an LTS version).
> We have to collaborate on a better fit solution in OpenERP version v7
> incorporating the improvements made to, for example the partner / contact
> model
> and integrate it properly with appropriate modules.
>
> Cheers,
> Eckhard.
>
>
>
> On 26/11/2012 10:41, Daniel Reis wrote:
>
> I have interest in "Staff Rostering".
> Right now I'm planning to work on porting to OpenERP a custom developed
> shift scheduling app.
>
> DR
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> From: juancristobal@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 02:22:22 -0300
> To: nhomar@xxxxxxxxx
> CC: openerp-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> openerp-community-reviewer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] Community project Last updates
>
> Ok, I booked:
>
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/medical-openerp/+spec/healthcare-building-blocks
> (will start working next month)
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Nhomar Hernández <nhomar@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> Excellent....
>
>
>
>  2012/11/24 Juan Cristobal Lopez Arrieta <juancristobal@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Nhomar,
> We will be glad to contribute to the the 'medical'  project.
> Actually we are working on a review that goes beyond the migration.
> We will create some blue-prints very soon.
>
>
>  The place, to avoid misunderstood!
>
>  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/medical-openerp/+addspec
>
>  Regards!
>
>
> Also it will be nice to have  some inputs from Eckhard Schwarzat, from
> Valuedecision.
> We are starting a project for at least one major Hospital next year
> rgds
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Nhomar Hernández <nhomar@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> Hello Friend some comments.
>
>  2012/11/23 Joël Grand-Guillaume <joel.grandguillaume@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>  Some informations about the last (suggested) changes after your
> feedback, hopes, and fears ;)
>
>  Project title:
> --------------
> I renamed the project title with " OpenERP * " prefix so we can identify
> them more easily when assigning bugs (this was suggested by some of you).
> The branches and LP project name are still unchanged.
>
>
>  Bug tracker:
> ---------------
> I don't took the time to activate all bug tracker on every project right
> know. Anyone from the "OpenERP community reviewer" team can do it easily if
> needed. For others, I suggest to email us in case you need it.
>
>
>  Review and Merge proposal (6.1 and 7.0 series):
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> As we committed our own Camptocamp's module in the new community project
> without review, and to be fair with everyone, I suggest the following about
> the reviews.
> On the 6.1 serie of all new community projects, we make more softened
> review of the modules. This will smoothly bring everybody to a better
> quality level while still accepting the today's existing and acceptable
> modules.
>
>  This means, community modules on version 6.1 will accept module that are
> not "perfect", but on the other hand will incite the developer to push the
> quality a step further on every MP. This is mostly due to the fact that we
> don't have defined quality standard right now and we need to start building
> our community ecosystem anyway.
>
>  But... For future serie 7.0, I'll suggest that we really take care of
> which module we accept on every community project, and with which quality
> standard. This means, we WON'T BRANCH the 6.1 serie to starts the 7.0 one.
> We'll rather extract all modules from it, and built a MP to an empty 7.0
> branch. Each MP on serie 7.0 will be reviewed more deeply as we will know
> we'll gonna maintain it over years together.
>
>  I think this is a fair approach that will both allow existing module
> with a fair quality to be part of the "adventure" while ensuring strong
> basis for the future !
>
>  Review documentation:
> ------------------------------
>
>  I'll point here the LP documentation about reviewing merge and also
> added it to the official doc.openerp.com :
> https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Review
>
>  I also read this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviewsand find it very interesting as a starts to build our own rules. Anybody
> wanting to write a first draft of our own from this ?
>
>  GTK client:
> --------------
>
>  Apparently no majority will to make a community branch of the GTK
> client. I let the interested people organize their-self together to starts
> a common project on LP.
>
>
>  New/Future project:
> -------------------------
>
>  New project landed:
>
>  - Medical in OpenERP : https://launchpad.net/medical-openerp
>
>
>   Thanks God i made this fork in the right moment jeje, we installed very
> basic features on some hospitals almost for Free because they are in little
> countries, as community should be cool mantain this project complaining all
> community guidelines talked before in __this__ project,
>
>  Today, we are not planning put code in other place different to this.
> but if somebody will take care of the migration (we are planning do it but
> not this year), we can merge them changes at instant [EveryBody knows our
> compromise with the efective community] and if they ask publically to be a
> reviewer and community is agreed i open as the other projects where
> selected for now just openerp-community-reviewer already selected by
> community are the reviewers.
>
>  I think if somebody else wants to take control of the project before i
> can give the rights without any problem, but please show first the code ;-)
> and ask to community.
>
>
>
>  - Hotel Management System on OpenERP :
> https://launchpad.net/hotel-management-system
>
>
>  We are migrating right now to use the more basic features because we
> have in Venezuela one demo in a Hotel School, we will be in charge of the
> migration, if somebody can help us to migrate views (almost all are broken)
> it can be great we start with hotel and hotel_reservation, hotel is
> instalable right now.
>
>  I think the first sprint can be done just to be able to install on v7 if
> somebody else have othe ideas, welcome.
>
>  Thanks for the support/.
>
>
>  Future suggestions:
>
>  - GIS for OpenERP
>
>
>  Joel. as in private i ask you, We are planning work with you from a
> commercial PoV in this project, for us should be an honor help you with
> this, we already are closing deals that need this framework/feature that
> you in C2C developed already,
>
>  WE ARE IN ;-)
>
>
>  - Community Web addons for OpenERP
>
>
>  I think we should have some minimal technical rules before select what a
> web_addons means, because JS is so easy to brake, but IMHO it is a must to
> have one time we have the quorum of modules.
>
>
>
>
>  Though ?
>
>
>
>
>  Thank you all, have a nice week-end,
>
>  Cheers,
>
>
>  Happy WeekEnd.
>
>
>  Joël
>
>
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