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[Raphael Valyi <rvalyi@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello Joël and all,

just a few comments regarding Akretion and our projects: we are likely to
ask a contributor agreement for a copyright grant to OCA for the major
projects we lead (for future contributions). We will probably ask that for
the ~20 localization modules for Brazil for instance as this will be a
better trade off than just grant to Akretion on one side or plain chaos on
the other side. As we have seen granting some rights to OCA doesn't mean
contributor loose their copyrights, so I think it's both fair and also
something to secure OpenERP in the future (protect against capitalistic
take overs via licensing tricks, allow license actualization etc...)

Also, I think a topic we will have in September will be how can we both
tell a project complies to OCA review rules and quality standards, while
possibly not using a 'common' Launchpad branch. Great modules are being
developed in isolated specific branches (as a reminder we currently choose
to group branches mostly because we don't have a decent standard package
manager to install modules and right dependencies deterministically both
for deployment, testing and development purposes. Some other modules are
being built on other platforms also, like Github or Bitbucket shame clone).
You already stated that OCA won't impose the tooling. We will then need to
define better at witch peer review conditions a project can elect to the
OCA umbrella. I think that would be pretty straightforward to define, I
just wanted to mention it.

Finally, I think people shouldn't fear who is or isn't an OCA founder. For
years, OCA's founder have been having a day job integrating OpenERP for
real paying customers and aren't here to highjack anybody's else work.
Instead the goal is just to set up the minimal foundation to ensure
community effort isn't thrown in the trash or isn't a weak prey for
capitalistic take overs no matter the financial wealth of some. So it's
just about decisions made at OCA having legitimacy in the community and
delegating nearly everything to the community itself, following the pretty
much straightforward open source meritocracy to ensure the people making
the effort that matters get rewarded for it and hence encourage the
eco-system to grow for real. Also many modules will probably keep developed
outside OCA's umbrella, and that's perfect this way. The goal will not be
trying to tell which modules are OCA or not, their author will decide much
as they like. The goal will be just to ensure third party have a strong
juridic and organizational umbrella to collaborate on essential modules
that are our public wealth.


Best regards.

-- 
Raphaël Valyi
Founder and consultant
http://twitter.com/rvalyi <http://twitter.com/#!/rvalyi>
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www.akretion.com






On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 3:40 AM, Joël Grand-Guillaume <
joel.grandguillaume@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Ana,
>
>
> We already communicate that, but it don't seems to be clear enough. So,
> the following foreseen steps are:
>
>  * Funders of the OCA inititive (Savoir Faire Linux, Vauxoo, Therp,
> Akretion, Camptocamp) will create the Association statuses and include
> their-self as the first board.
>
>  * The community will send their feed-back and comments about that
>
>  * The funders will correct the statuses accordingly and sign them to
> create the OCA
>
>  * Funders will build the necessary structure to endorse new members
> (subscription sheet, basic / first rules of the Association,....)
>
>  * New election process will be launch to include new members (voting one)
> and election of the board will take place. At that stage, we'll have the
> first elected board of the OCA. This is where you may want to apply as a
> voting memeber.
>
> Hope this clarify the way we've seen that. We want to achieve that within
> 2-3 month.
>
> Regards,
>
> Joël
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Ana Juaristi <ajuaristio@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Hi joel:
>> Apart c2c... Who is considered Oca  founder?
>> Is there any requirement or rule to follow in order to be one of them? Is
>> it just a group defined by now or is it opened to include new members? Just
>> curiosity.
>> Than you for all your great work on this concern!!!
>> El 14/08/2013 08:39, "Joël Grand-Guillaume" <
>> joel.grandguillaume@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
>>
>> Thanks for your reply !
>>>
>>> I think the outcome of this would be :
>>>
>>>  * Make an event to allow people of the OCA to meet one day before
>>> Community days => it will simply the transport for everyone : one place,
>>> one fly ticket, ...
>>>
>>>  * Make web-meeting to deal with operational stuff to save costs
>>>
>>> Regards !
>>>
>>> Joël
>>>
>>>
>>> P.S. just started to organize the collaborative work for the
>>> finalization of the OCA by the "funding" members. More news ASAP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:09 AM, Federico Manuel Echeverri Choux <
>>> echeverrifm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1+
>>>> On Aug 13, 2013 10:29 PM, "Juan Cristobal Lopez Arrieta" <
>>>> juancristobal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Eric Caudal <
>>>>> eric.caudal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I prefer at the same place (complicated/expensive for people far
>>>>>> away to travel to 2 different places).
>>>>>> Online meeting are great but not always enough.
>>>>>> If we do a meeting along with the community days we minimize the cost
>>>>>> for many of us and we can complete with an online connexion with the one
>>>>>> that cannot be present
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Eric Caudal*CEO*
>>>>>> --*Elico Corporation, Shanghai branchOpenERP Premium Certified Training Partner *
>>>>>> Cell: + 86 186 2136 1670
>>>>>> Office: + 86 21 6211 8017/27/37
>>>>>> Skype: elico.corperic.caudal@elico-corp.comhttp://www.elico-corp.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Elico Corp]
>>>>>> On 13/08/2013 22:42, Davide Corio wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/08/2013 13:12, Joël Grand-Guillaume wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 for having one "extra" ay for OCA meeting during the community
>>>>>> meeting next year !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would be a great chance for the community to meet and grow up,
>>>>>> but... wouldn't it be better to keep this event separate from the main
>>>>>> event?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing against the open days, but the other floss communities tend
>>>>>> to change the location every year in order to allow people from all around
>>>>>> the world to equally participate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Belgium is fine to me, but i'm thinking of all the non-europeans that
>>>>>> would like to participate and cannot because of the distance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd really like to see the annual community meeting's venue to be
>>>>>> proposed and voted as is Django, Plone or other communities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, this way we'd need a host, sponsors etc etc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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