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[DP Hicks <dphicks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Thank you for your reply.  I'm working on obtaining some code that handles
portions of FIFO that is in production today and will leverage that as a
starting point for further development.

I will certainly use you as a resource for validating the design of the
FIFO module.

Thank you.

DP

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Ovnicraft <ovnicraft@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:17 AM, DP Hicks <dphicks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Accounting Experts,
>>
>> I sent out an email that went directly to Quentin and Fabrice this
>> morning but really was interested in spearheading a discussion on OpenERP
>> FIFO.
>>
>> My client is in need of this functionality and I hear there have been
>> discussions in the past regarding FIFO/LIFO.  Has code been generated to
>> handle this need?  If not, what were the outcomes of previous discussions
>> and was anything developed or were there just discussions?
>>
>> I want this to be a collaborative development.  I have a good
>> understanding of what is needed but know that I don't know everything about
>> this task and the community's input is essential to the success of
>> FIFO/LIFO development.
>>
>
> Hello, if you want to start, you can write a doc and we can help you to
> load in launchpad to start the development.
> Idenfity the changes or improvements.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>> Your feedback is appreciated.
>>
>> D.P. Hicks
>> NovaPoint Group
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:15 AM, DP Hicks <dphicks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Quentin & Fabrice,
>>>
>>> I need to see if you were able to determine how OpenERP would like to
>>> proceed with collaboration for FIFO.  My client requires it for their
>>> implementation and will be wrapping up their project shortly.  I need to
>>> proceed with this development and would like to follow the correct path.
>>>
>>> --
>>> D.P. Hicks
>>> President
>>>
>>> NovaPoint Group LLC
>>> 810.531.1777
>>> www.novapointgroup.com
>>> "An OpenERP U.S. Silver Partner"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:49 AM, Quentin <qdp@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> i think Fabrice explained the R&D vision/roadmap clearly and correctly:
>>>> we don't plan to work on FIFO for the next version as it doesn't match our
>>>> aim which is 'to simplify openerp and make it more usable'. Though, it
>>>> doesn't exclude totally our collaboration on developments driven by our
>>>> community and i'd be glad to participate. But this is not of my resort.
>>>> Fabrice, we will have to discuss this point with Antony next week.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Quentin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 30/03/12 23:58, david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Understood. If we work together more will get done which helps us all.
>>>> Sent from my mobile phone
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: * "Fabrice Henrion" <fhe@xxxxxxxxxxx> <fhe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *Date: *Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:53:51 -0700
>>>> *To: *'David Mitchell'<david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *Cc: *'DP Hicks'<dphicks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><dphicks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>>>> 'Laurie Chrostowski'<lchrostowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><lchrostowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>>>> 'Quentin'<qdp@xxxxxxxxxxx> <qdp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *Subject: *RE: FIFO - Accounting Plans
>>>>
>>>>  David,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn’t turn it like that – saying that we don’t want to focus on
>>>> companies that are bigger than QB’s market (after all QB Pro doesn’t allow
>>>> more than 25 users from what I heard), and I can totally understand that
>>>> manufacturers of 50 employees/users might need FIFO (and this is part of
>>>> our target). What I’m saying is that improving usability as a whole not
>>>> only was necessary but also has a much bigger impact on OERP’s market
>>>> acquisition than one additional functionality. This is why it is our
>>>> priority for now. I’m not saying we are against it or that we will never
>>>> want to work on it.****
>>>>
>>>> Also, the score of the FIFO feature on the feedback page speaks for
>>>> itself.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> What I agree with as well is that we need better procedures to make
>>>> OERP SA collaborate with the community when it comes to developing a
>>>> feature and making sure that you are doing it the right way before doing it
>>>> wrong entirely. I believe it will be one of the major topics that community
>>>> members will want to talk about with us. In that regard, R&D has to come up
>>>> with a process, and stick to it. I will most probably have a better vision
>>>> on this after my stay in Belgium.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Best,****
>>>>
>>>> __
>>>> Fabrice Henrion
>>>> Director of Business Development Americas****
>>>>
>>>> OpenERP Inc.
>>>> 399 Bradford Street – Suite 101
>>>> Redwood City, CA 94063
>>>> Tel: +1 (650) 307-6736****
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openerp.com****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *From:* David Mitchell [mailto:david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2012 2:13 PM
>>>> *To:* Fabrice Henrion
>>>> *Cc:* DP Hicks; Laurie Chrostowski; Quentin
>>>> *Subject:* Re: FIFO - Accounting Plans****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Hi Fabrice,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for responding and understood. So what I read into this is -
>>>> other successful small business suites -aka Quickbooks- out of the box
>>>> don't offer FIFO/LIFO - only weighted average. So that is OpenERP's target
>>>> market. And like Quickbooks - an additional module will be required to
>>>> implement FIFO.
>>>>
>>>> I will tell you that we have to solve the FIFO issue for some of our
>>>> clients. Viewed as a basic need. FIFO is readily adopted in many small and
>>>> medium businesses (like manufacturing) here in the US. I'll find a
>>>> statistic somewhere as well on the adoption % just so you know as well in
>>>> your discussions with prospects.
>>>>
>>>> In the interest of not ophaning customers on a specific NPG FIFO
>>>> version we will try to provide some community/gathering/voice leadership in
>>>> getting input into the design. Hopefully, Quentin will agree to participate
>>>> in this as well as I know his expertise and perspective would be valued -
>>>> so that whatever is designed has visibility from OpenERP and has a "chance"
>>>> to become certified.
>>>>
>>>> Certainly I think in the community FIFO is needed so we will see what
>>>> the demand may be/and willingness to jointly develop/or at least design.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and have a good weekend.
>>>>
>>>> David Mitchell****
>>>>
>>>> 2012/3/30 Fabrice Henrion <fhe@xxxxxxxxxxx>****
>>>>
>>>> Hi David,****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Last time I heard Fabien talking about it, he said that our priority
>>>> for now was to make OpenERP more easy to use and intuitive. From what I
>>>> know, there is no plan on our side to add FIFO/LIFO anytime soon. At this
>>>> point, we prefer to work on making OERP very easy for small businesses that
>>>> have basic needs than adding functionalities.****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> As for your question about having R&D involved in the conception to
>>>> make sure the community is going in the direction that R&D would encourage,
>>>> I’ll let Quentin reply.****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Best,****
>>>>
>>>> __
>>>> Fabrice Henrion
>>>> Director of Business Development Americas****
>>>>
>>>> OpenERP Inc.
>>>> 399 Bradford Street – Suite 101
>>>> Redwood City, CA 94063
>>>> Tel: +1 (650) 307-6736****
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openerp.com****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> *From:* David Mitchell [mailto:david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2012 7:18 AM
>>>> *To:* Quentin
>>>> *Cc:* Fabrice Henrion; DP Hicks; Laurie Chrostowski
>>>> *Subject:* FIFO - Accounting Plans****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Bonjour Quentin,
>>>>
>>>> J'espère que cet e-mail vous trouve bien.
>>>>
>>>> Certains de nos clients sont intéressés par FIFO. Auparavant, Dhara
>>>> avait mentionné que cela a été la cible de la version 6.1, mais ne pas le
>>>> faire dans le communiqué. Je voudrais savoir si OpenERP est décidé de faire
>>>> ressortir cette fonctionnalité dès à 7,0. Ou si vous avez déjà la
>>>> conception?
>>>>
>>>> Si pas, alors pour faire avancer les choses, nous l'intention
>>>> d'organiser un webinaire session de conception ouverte aux autres membres
>>>> de l'équipe d'experts comptables pour tenter de concevoir une solution
>>>> viable. Nous aimerions pour OpenERP à participer que nous espérons la
>>>> conception / développement serait approprié pour la certification et de le
>>>> rendre utile à la communauté.
>>>> Serait-ce vous intéressent?
>>>>
>>>> Je vous remercie pour la mise à jour.
>>>>
>>>> Cordialement
>>>>
>>>> David Mitchell
>>>> Novapoint Group ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> D.P. Hicks
>>> President
>>>
>>> NovaPoint Group LLC
>>> 810.531.1777
>>> www.novapointgroup.com
>>> "An OpenERP U.S. Silver Partner"
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> D.P. Hicks
>> President
>> NovaPoint Group LLC
>> 810.531.1777
>> www.novapointgroup.com
>> "An OpenERP U.S. Silver Partner"
>>
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D.P. Hicks
President
NovaPoint Group LLC
810.531.1777
www.novapointgroup.com
"An OpenERP U.S. Silver Partner"