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Re: About Prepayment in ecommerce workflow

 

Hi

It looks to me as if Gustavo and Frederic are talking about */Forward Invoicing/*/*(Billing)*/, which is not the same thing as Prepayments. Forward Invoicing does get complicated especially in the construction industry.

Robin St.Clair



On 20/11/2013 14:37, Gustavo Adrian Marino wrote:
Frederic:
It seems the treatment is different depending on the country
In Argentina, prepayment should be taxed with VAT at the date of the prepayment. In fact, VAT rate for the prepayment could be different as the final VAT of the actual good (and this is a challenge for the proper registration of the whole operation). That's why it is important for customer to invoice the prepayment separatly from invoice of the actual goods (part of the payment could be considered by the customer as fiscal credit, and thus effective prepayment is reduced - as much as 21% actually!). I beleive OpenERP should take into consideration the possibility of a different country specific treatment (to be configured or adapted on country specific modules), and thus on prepayment invoice to have posibility of using a different AR account
Regards


2013/11/20 Frédéric Clementi <frederic.clementi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:frederic.clementi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>

    Hi Gustavo,
    Please see my comments below :

    2013/11/20 Gustavo Adrian Marino <gamarino@xxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:gamarino@xxxxxxxxx>>

        Let me add other reason why prepaid account is used (at least
        here in Argentina)

        When you invoice the prepayment, VAT credit could be used by
        the customer.

    No, payment date is not relevant regarding VAT. The VAT is due at
    the date of the transfer of property witch is in our case the date
    of delivery. This is why invoices are usually dated at the same
    date than the delivery.

        That's why at cancellation of the final invoice (the one you
        send once the goods are actually delivered), you emit a credit
        note for the prepayment (generating the counter movement to
        the prepayment, leaving the money to be applied to the final
        payment and reverting the fiscal debt due to prepayment VAT)
        and you use the customer credit to cancel the final invoice

        This mechanism is independent of the fiscal year cut-off and
        allows you to correctly treat prepayment as a debt you have
        with your customer till the sending of the goods/services

    yes, cut-off entries are totally independant from vat treatment


        Regards




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