openshot.developers team mailing list archive

[Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>]

Interesting.  I think the Gtk.Builder sounds like a good direction for the
future of the project, but it's going to completely derail us right now if
we attempt to switch.  We use libGlade extensively in OpenShot, and even
base our screen classes on a "SimpleGladeApp" base class.

Since the end result of libGlade and gtk.Builder is just a GTK window with
widgets, we should be able to make the same UI with both.  I'll add a
blueprint to LaunchPad about the gtk.Builder for a future version.

As far as the UI not integrating well into Ubuntu, that is true.  It
supports GTK themes, but none of our button images or the timeline graphics
match the theme.  GTK doesn't have generic button icons for most of the
buttons in OpenShot.  However, we did make OpenShot theme-able, and we could
make a more Ubuntu-friendly theme.  Just remember, in Oct 2009 this year,
Ubuntu is dumping their orange and brown interface.   Not sure what color
they are moving toward however.

Just to keep everything in perspective, I think OpenShot is already a much
better looking application than any of our competing apps in this category.
Only a few video editors are based in GTK, and they are ugly and blocky
looking.  Mainly due to their timeline being drawn by rectangles.

In my opinion, the features we need to have ASAP are:

1) transitions
2) filters
3) titling
4) key-framing
5) video export

And lastly, figure out how the heck to package this baby up so it works on
most Linux distributions.  That will probably be the hardest task of all.

Thanks!
-Jonathan


On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Shane Fagan <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx>wrote:

> GTK builder has replaced it. The Gnome guys have officially called it
> deprecated.
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2009-May/msg00189.html
>
> The problem I see with the UI is it doesnt integrate well. I use ubuntu
> with the default theme and it looks really out of place. Almost like it
> should be a windows app not a gnome one. Its mainly because of the
> blueness.
>
> Ill draw up some mockups of what I think it could look like.
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 09:23 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
> > Shane,
> >
> > Where did you read that glade was deprecated?  They just released a
> > new version in March / Apr 2009.  If that's true, please show me where
> > you read that.  If we didn't use Glade to design the interface, what
> > are you suggesting?  OpenShot is a GTK app, and based on my
> > experience, Glade is the #1 easiest way interfaces are created for
> > GTK.
> >
> > We are always open to UI suggestions, Logo suggestions, and just about
> > any other suggestion.  But why do you feel it's necessary to make a
> > make a new UI?  I'm trying to have an open-mind, but that seems like
> > it would be 2 steps backwards.
> >
> > That being said, we have plenty of ideas and features that need to be
> > developed.  I would recommend working with Andy and me to identify the
> > best feature that makes sense for your skill set.  If you want to
> > focus on the UI, then I would recommend working on mock-ups of your
> > ideas, and send them to this mailing list for feedback.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > -Jonathan
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Shane Fagan
> > <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >         There is a few things I want to address too before I get
> >         started. Ill
> >         make a new UI if you dont mind. Glade is deprecated, the UI
> >         isnt
> >         integrated well and the logo and overall look and feel are
> >         slightly off.
> >         By the look of the code its a very well thought out program so
> >         im
> >         looking forward to the challenge.
> >
> >         Regards
> >         Shane
> >
> >
> >         On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 23:18 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
> >         > Shane, thanks for joining our team!  I can certainly use
> >         your help.
> >         > Before you jump in and start coding, I have a few
> >         suggestions:
> >         >
> >         > 1) Be sure to check out the OpenShot Blog... to stay
> >         up-to-date on all
> >         > the happenings (www.OpenShotVideo.com)
> >         > 2) Download the Build Wizard and be sure that OpenShot works
> >         on your
> >         > Ubuntu setup
> >         > 3) Take a look at the code, play around with the UI and get
> >         a feel for
> >         > everything
> >         >
> >         > If you have any trouble getting OpenShot to run, just let me
> >         know.
> >         > Once you are ready to start coding, there are a ton of
> >         different
> >         > things you could help out with.  We can discuss that once
> >         you are
> >         > ready.
> >         >
> >         > Thanks!
> >         > -Jonathan
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Shane Fagan
> >         > <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >         >         Hi,
> >         >
> >         >         My name is Shane Fagan. Im a software development
> >         student in
> >         >         college I
> >         >         havent been programming in python for too long but
> >         id like to
> >         >         help out.
> >         >         My background is java. I can help out with UI and
> >         some other
> >         >         functionality. I really see the need for a good
> >         video editor
> >         >         because at
> >         >         the moment they are all fairly hard to use. Anyhow
> >         get back to
> >         >         me on
> >         >         where I can help and ill get developing.
> >         >
> >         >         Regards
> >         >         Shane_Fagan
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >         _______________________________________________
> >         >         Mailing list:
> >         https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
> >         >         Post to     :
> >         openshot.developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >         >         Unsubscribe :
> >         https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
> >         >         More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
> >         >
> >
> >
> >
>
>