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[Shane Fagan <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx>]

Oh and just to say here is the Gnome roadmap
http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven
It has the roadmap that they are using to eventually remove libglade
from gnome-desktop
On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 10:23 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
> Interesting.  I think the Gtk.Builder sounds like a good direction for
> the future of the project, but it's going to completely derail us
> right now if we attempt to switch.  We use libGlade extensively in
> OpenShot, and even base our screen classes on a "SimpleGladeApp" base
> class.
> 
> Since the end result of libGlade and gtk.Builder is just a GTK window
> with widgets, we should be able to make the same UI with both.  I'll
> add a blueprint to LaunchPad about the gtk.Builder for a future
> version.
> 
> As far as the UI not integrating well into Ubuntu, that is true.  It
> supports GTK themes, but none of our button images or the timeline
> graphics match the theme.  GTK doesn't have generic button icons for
> most of the buttons in OpenShot.  However, we did make OpenShot
> theme-able, and we could make a more Ubuntu-friendly theme.  Just
> remember, in Oct 2009 this year, Ubuntu is dumping their orange and
> brown interface.   Not sure what color they are moving toward however.
> 
> Just to keep everything in perspective, I think OpenShot is already a
> much better looking application than any of our competing apps in this
> category.  Only a few video editors are based in GTK, and they are
> ugly and blocky looking.  Mainly due to their timeline being drawn by
> rectangles.
> 
> In my opinion, the features we need to have ASAP are:
> 
> 1) transitions
> 2) filters
> 3) titling
> 4) key-framing
> 5) video export
> 
> And lastly, figure out how the heck to package this baby up so it
> works on most Linux distributions.  That will probably be the hardest
> task of all.
> 
> Thanks!
> -Jonathan
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Shane Fagan
> <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         GTK builder has replaced it. The Gnome guys have officially
>         called it
>         deprecated.
>         http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2009-May/msg00189.html
>         
>         The problem I see with the UI is it doesnt integrate well. I
>         use ubuntu
>         with the default theme and it looks really out of place.
>         Almost like it
>         should be a windows app not a gnome one. Its mainly because of
>         the
>         blueness.
>         
>         Ill draw up some mockups of what I think it could look like.
>         
>         
>         
>         On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 09:23 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
>         > Shane,
>         >
>         > Where did you read that glade was deprecated?  They just
>         released a
>         > new version in March / Apr 2009.  If that's true, please
>         show me where
>         > you read that.  If we didn't use Glade to design the
>         interface, what
>         > are you suggesting?  OpenShot is a GTK app, and based on my
>         > experience, Glade is the #1 easiest way interfaces are
>         created for
>         > GTK.
>         >
>         > We are always open to UI suggestions, Logo suggestions, and
>         just about
>         > any other suggestion.  But why do you feel it's necessary to
>         make a
>         > make a new UI?  I'm trying to have an open-mind, but that
>         seems like
>         > it would be 2 steps backwards.
>         >
>         > That being said, we have plenty of ideas and features that
>         need to be
>         > developed.  I would recommend working with Andy and me to
>         identify the
>         > best feature that makes sense for your skill set.  If you
>         want to
>         > focus on the UI, then I would recommend working on mock-ups
>         of your
>         > ideas, and send them to this mailing list for feedback.
>         >
>         > Thanks!
>         > -Jonathan
>         >
>         >
>         > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Shane Fagan
>         > <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         >         There is a few things I want to address too before I
>         get
>         >         started. Ill
>         >         make a new UI if you dont mind. Glade is deprecated,
>         the UI
>         >         isnt
>         >         integrated well and the logo and overall look and
>         feel are
>         >         slightly off.
>         >         By the look of the code its a very well thought out
>         program so
>         >         im
>         >         looking forward to the challenge.
>         >
>         >         Regards
>         >         Shane
>         >
>         >
>         >         On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 23:18 -0500, Jonathan Thomas
>         wrote:
>         >         > Shane, thanks for joining our team!  I can
>         certainly use
>         >         your help.
>         >         > Before you jump in and start coding, I have a few
>         >         suggestions:
>         >         >
>         >         > 1) Be sure to check out the OpenShot Blog... to
>         stay
>         >         up-to-date on all
>         >         > the happenings (www.OpenShotVideo.com)
>         >         > 2) Download the Build Wizard and be sure that
>         OpenShot works
>         >         on your
>         >         > Ubuntu setup
>         >         > 3) Take a look at the code, play around with the
>         UI and get
>         >         a feel for
>         >         > everything
>         >         >
>         >         > If you have any trouble getting OpenShot to run,
>         just let me
>         >         know.
>         >         > Once you are ready to start coding, there are a
>         ton of
>         >         different
>         >         > things you could help out with.  We can discuss
>         that once
>         >         you are
>         >         > ready.
>         >         >
>         >         > Thanks!
>         >         > -Jonathan
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Shane Fagan
>         >         > <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         >         >         Hi,
>         >         >
>         >         >         My name is Shane Fagan. Im a software
>         development
>         >         student in
>         >         >         college I
>         >         >         havent been programming in python for too
>         long but
>         >         id like to
>         >         >         help out.
>         >         >         My background is java. I can help out with
>         UI and
>         >         some other
>         >         >         functionality. I really see the need for a
>         good
>         >         video editor
>         >         >         because at
>         >         >         the moment they are all fairly hard to
>         use. Anyhow
>         >         get back to
>         >         >         me on
>         >         >         where I can help and ill get developing.
>         >         >
>         >         >         Regards
>         >         >         Shane_Fagan
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
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