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[Shane Fagan <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx>]

Well in terms of packaging that comes with time. First we must make a
full featured good looking program and then the distros will more than
likely package it for us. I know that you can ask a MOTU in ubuntu and
they will put together a package for us. Or just file a needs packaging
bug against ubuntu on launchpad. But we have to be stable before that
happens. 

In GTK builder there are a few options in terms of theme integration. It
is similar to Glade anyway its just minor differences. 

Have a look at Gnome-Zeitgeist on launchpad. Thats the kind of
integration im talking about. 

About the Icons we can make Icons that look like the regular generic
gnome ones. The big blue slider area at the bottom of the screen can be
replaced with sliders like in rhythmbox etc. The defaults. 
Integration is top priority if you want openshot to be included in the
different distros. 

About ubuntu's change in colour it definitely wont be blue. Too close to
windows and KDE. So id say it would be something different if any change
is made at all. 


On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 10:23 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
> Interesting.  I think the Gtk.Builder sounds like a good direction for
> the future of the project, but it's going to completely derail us
> right now if we attempt to switch.  We use libGlade extensively in
> OpenShot, and even base our screen classes on a "SimpleGladeApp" base
> class.
> 
> Since the end result of libGlade and gtk.Builder is just a GTK window
> with widgets, we should be able to make the same UI with both.  I'll
> add a blueprint to LaunchPad about the gtk.Builder for a future
> version.
> 
> As far as the UI not integrating well into Ubuntu, that is true.  It
> supports GTK themes, but none of our button images or the timeline
> graphics match the theme.  GTK doesn't have generic button icons for
> most of the buttons in OpenShot.  However, we did make OpenShot
> theme-able, and we could make a more Ubuntu-friendly theme.  Just
> remember, in Oct 2009 this year, Ubuntu is dumping their orange and
> brown interface.   Not sure what color they are moving toward however.
> 
> Just to keep everything in perspective, I think OpenShot is already a
> much better looking application than any of our competing apps in this
> category.  Only a few video editors are based in GTK, and they are
> ugly and blocky looking.  Mainly due to their timeline being drawn by
> rectangles.
> 
> In my opinion, the features we need to have ASAP are:
> 
> 1) transitions
> 2) filters
> 3) titling
> 4) key-framing
> 5) video export
> 
> And lastly, figure out how the heck to package this baby up so it
> works on most Linux distributions.  That will probably be the hardest
> task of all.
> 
> Thanks!
> -Jonathan
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Shane Fagan
> <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         GTK builder has replaced it. The Gnome guys have officially
>         called it
>         deprecated.
>         http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2009-May/msg00189.html
>         
>         The problem I see with the UI is it doesnt integrate well. I
>         use ubuntu
>         with the default theme and it looks really out of place.
>         Almost like it
>         should be a windows app not a gnome one. Its mainly because of
>         the
>         blueness.
>         
>         Ill draw up some mockups of what I think it could look like.
>         
>         
>         
>         On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 09:23 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
>         > Shane,
>         >
>         > Where did you read that glade was deprecated?  They just
>         released a
>         > new version in March / Apr 2009.  If that's true, please
>         show me where
>         > you read that.  If we didn't use Glade to design the
>         interface, what
>         > are you suggesting?  OpenShot is a GTK app, and based on my
>         > experience, Glade is the #1 easiest way interfaces are
>         created for
>         > GTK.
>         >
>         > We are always open to UI suggestions, Logo suggestions, and
>         just about
>         > any other suggestion.  But why do you feel it's necessary to
>         make a
>         > make a new UI?  I'm trying to have an open-mind, but that
>         seems like
>         > it would be 2 steps backwards.
>         >
>         > That being said, we have plenty of ideas and features that
>         need to be
>         > developed.  I would recommend working with Andy and me to
>         identify the
>         > best feature that makes sense for your skill set.  If you
>         want to
>         > focus on the UI, then I would recommend working on mock-ups
>         of your
>         > ideas, and send them to this mailing list for feedback.
>         >
>         > Thanks!
>         > -Jonathan
>         >
>         >
>         > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Shane Fagan
>         > <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         >         There is a few things I want to address too before I
>         get
>         >         started. Ill
>         >         make a new UI if you dont mind. Glade is deprecated,
>         the UI
>         >         isnt
>         >         integrated well and the logo and overall look and
>         feel are
>         >         slightly off.
>         >         By the look of the code its a very well thought out
>         program so
>         >         im
>         >         looking forward to the challenge.
>         >
>         >         Regards
>         >         Shane
>         >
>         >
>         >         On Thu, 2009-06-04 at 23:18 -0500, Jonathan Thomas
>         wrote:
>         >         > Shane, thanks for joining our team!  I can
>         certainly use
>         >         your help.
>         >         > Before you jump in and start coding, I have a few
>         >         suggestions:
>         >         >
>         >         > 1) Be sure to check out the OpenShot Blog... to
>         stay
>         >         up-to-date on all
>         >         > the happenings (www.OpenShotVideo.com)
>         >         > 2) Download the Build Wizard and be sure that
>         OpenShot works
>         >         on your
>         >         > Ubuntu setup
>         >         > 3) Take a look at the code, play around with the
>         UI and get
>         >         a feel for
>         >         > everything
>         >         >
>         >         > If you have any trouble getting OpenShot to run,
>         just let me
>         >         know.
>         >         > Once you are ready to start coding, there are a
>         ton of
>         >         different
>         >         > things you could help out with.  We can discuss
>         that once
>         >         you are
>         >         > ready.
>         >         >
>         >         > Thanks!
>         >         > -Jonathan
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:33 PM, Shane Fagan
>         >         > <shanepatrickfagan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>         >         >         Hi,
>         >         >
>         >         >         My name is Shane Fagan. Im a software
>         development
>         >         student in
>         >         >         college I
>         >         >         havent been programming in python for too
>         long but
>         >         id like to
>         >         >         help out.
>         >         >         My background is java. I can help out with
>         UI and
>         >         some other
>         >         >         functionality. I really see the need for a
>         good
>         >         video editor
>         >         >         because at
>         >         >         the moment they are all fairly hard to
>         use. Anyhow
>         >         get back to
>         >         >         me on
>         >         >         where I can help and ill get developing.
>         >         >
>         >         >         Regards
>         >         >         Shane_Fagan
>         >         >
>         >         >
>         >         >
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