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Re: Your questions Re: OpenShot Help Manual - 3rd progress report
Helen, like Olivier mentioned, I think you have to have a gmail account to
use it with pidgin. On a side-note, gmail is the best email app I've ever
used. If you've never looked into it before, you should research it a bit.
I think you would like it.
Thanks,
-Jonathan
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello Helen
> Thanks to answer at my questions
> Very Good work and perhaps like you have sad we must open another branch
> for the manuel. So we'll discuss with jonathan.
> i have seen the links but i 'm not yet go to see. But the structure look
> simple (à 1ere vue)
> You can talk in gmail with gtalk. you have only click with the personn than
> you want. For pidgin it's a little more compliced. In fact not really (all
> is simple when you know but not when it's the opposite). Look at the french
> or english ubuntu documentation.
> install pidgin with synaptic. run it and create a compte gmail. in the
> essentail onglet :
> protocole gtalk ou xmmp
> tonlogin gmail
> domaine gmail.com
> ressource home par exemple don't matter
> rentre ton mot de passe gmail
> choisi tonlogo (taille 192*192)
> coche la case audessus (je sais plus ce que c'est)
> Dans l'ongelt avance
> coche le 1er use ssl/tls
> port connexion 5222(normalement ok)
> serveur de connection talk.google.com
> and that's all
> reconnecte-le et tu doir avoir d'abord une prise (tentative de connection)
> et quand c'est bon une bulle blanche avec un rond vert.
> @jonathan
> for our conversation about cration .deb, try this programm it's better than
> chekinstall and it's graphical and not only ubuntu but for all debian. And
> with alien we can imagine create some rpm!!!!!!
> The link is here<http://www.gtk-apps.org/content/show.php/Debreate+-+Debian+package+builder?content=101776>
> Have you look for the creation .pot file. i'm thinking than we 'll have the
> software traduce in spanish french italian german finnish.
> See you later perhaps
> Tchao Olivier
>
> 2009/7/19 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Bonjour Olivier,
>>
>> I will answer all your questions. I will have to answer in English
>> because my French is not good enough yet for some of what I will say.
>>
>> I will answer your questions in reverse order. I will start with your
>> last question.
>>
>> The links at the end of our emails are because Jonathan and I are
>> sending our emails through the Openshot.developers list server. This is
>> the private email discussion list for the the OpenShot Developers team
>> that you have joined.
>>
>> If you look at the message header for this email, you will see the Cc:
>> line shows the email address to send to our Openshot Developers
>> discussion list. Sending to this address ensures that all our team (5
>> peaople) will be kept informed about what is happening on our project.
>>
>> About gtalk: I didn't know that you could access gtalk from Linux. I
>> didn't know that you could use pidgin to do it. I will have to look at
>> this next week so I can talk with you and Jonathan.
>>
>> About the new help-manual branch on launchpad:
>>
>> I will push the file system hierarchy to the help-manual branch soon. I
>> am building the file system for this branch so that we will be able to
>> automatically generate .deb package files from it at any point we like
>> in the development of the help manual.
>>
>> I am at present writing the various control files needed to build and
>> install the Help Manual as a Ubuntu/Debian package. When I have tested
>> this to ensure it works safely, I will push this file system and the
>> outline stage of the manual to the help-manual branch.
>>
>> Then you will be able to download the package file system and files to
>> your computer.
>>
>> When we get to that point, we will be able to discuss with Jonathan the
>> best way for us to all work on this manual.
>>
>> We might either have a separate help-manual-<developers-name> branch
>> which I can merge together at agreed intervals, or we might have an
>> agreed work plan of who works on what part at what time on one branch.
>>
>> We can discuss this with Jonathan next week when I have the basic debian
>> package structure up on Launchpad.
>>
>> In the meanwhile, if you practice using Docbook XML to write Gnome Help
>> files, and read the links on the Gnome Documentation Project which you
>> will find on the link I sent you, you will then understand more of what
>> we are going to be doing.
>>
>> Tchao, Helen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 21:37 +0200, Olivier Girard wrote:
>> > Hello and thanks a lot for your help.
>> >
>> > It's exactly that i don't know familar with bazaar and, launchpad and
>> > participate in a project in fact. All It's new for me.
>> > It's very nice to your part to help me. I have generated my key, i
>> > have sucessed to be identified between bazaar and launchpad but i
>> > can't have access to help-manuel. I'have read all your links and
>> > othersbut i have an error :
>> > bzr: ERROR: Target directory
>> > lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual already exists, but does
>> > not have a valid .bzr directory. Supply --use-existing-dir to push
>> > there anyway.
>> > In fact i don't undersand something, According to the doc, i must
>> > create a branch to have acces at another. To have the code, i have
>> > understand but to participate really no.
>> > Ten minutes after this words, i have done something and i have now a
>> > folder help-manuel empty, that's normal ? So now i have a folder for
>> > the help-manual and the software.
>> > In all cases, it's not my day.
>> > I have tried to create a virtualization of two ubuntu (32 and 64 )
>> > that's out.
>> > I have tried the new version (0.94), it's the same thing (it's crashed
>> > when i import a file!!!)
>> > i have play with openshot (old version i have yet acces thanks to
>> > helen) and i don't find how have more time with the transitions
>> > i have not all understand with bazaar
>> > Thes points positif are for lprod (it a good new because the software
>> > has been to test without my intervention, i have said that the french
>> > communauty have seen the first post on sum-up) and the second i have
>> > modified the french page of wikipedia on AVCHD.(another thing that
>> > i've never done).
>> > I 'm reading the dockbook and for the moment, i understand, it 's a
>> > good point.
>> > Now, i'm going to rip a little film that i have done this morning
>> > about my little river which will complate the film about my little
>> > cat.
>> > If you want speak on gtalk, you can (and i have success to work
>> > pidgin).
>> > Tchao
>> > Olivier
>> > Oh another last question: how you do to have at the end all the links
>> > like this:
>> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
>> > Post to : openshot.developers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openshot.developers<https://launchpad.net/%7Eopenshot.developers>
>> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>> >
>> > 2009/7/18 Helen McCall <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Thanks for that Jonathan,
>> >
>> > I'll have a look at it tomorrow or Sunday.
>> >
>> > I think Olivier means he needs to generate a key first so he
>> > can upload
>> > to Launchpad. I generated my key when I first registered.
>> >
>> > I took a break from XML coding, and got to work on building
>> > the correct
>> > form of directory structure to base the whole documentation
>> > package on.
>> > I've started writing the Makefiles and other control and
>> > information
>> > files needed.
>> >
>> > It is coming along slowly because I'm having to learn how to
>> > do things
>> > at every stage. :~)
>> >
>> > I keep wondering what comments this Manual will get from
>> > 66666er! I
>> > suspect that kid is aged 13 and 3/4!
>> >
>> > I'm going to bed now because I'm exhausted. I'm getting up
>> > early
>> > tomorrow to go out with a friend.
>> >
>> > Tchao, Helen
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 17:21 -0500, Jonathan Thomas wrote:
>> > > I'm not sure if you are familiar with bazaar (the source
>> > control in
>> > > LaunchPad). You need to create a local bzr repository with
>> > your
>> > > folder / files. Then commit your changes locally. And
>> > finally, push
>> > > your local commits to your new branch:
>> > > lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual
>> > >
>> > > After you get it setup, you only have to commit changes, and
>> > push them
>> > > back to bazaar. It's quite easy after it's all setup.
>> > >
>> > > Bazaar in 5 minutes:
>> > > http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/mini-tutorial/index.html
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > -Jonathan
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Olivier Girard
>> > <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > Helen
>> > > That's good i have found (i'm thinking) but we must
>> > have a key
>> > > for upload the manuel.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Olivier
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2009/7/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Helen
>> > > Sorry i'm now on launchpad but i don't find
>> > the new
>> > > branch for the manuel.
>> > > Olivier
>> > >
>> > > 2009/7/17 Olivier Girard
>> > <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Helen
>> > >
>> > > It's a very good job. i have a
>> > little speak on
>> > > gtalk with jonathan for the first
>> > time. Now he
>> > > have a meeting but Would you join
>> > us. But how
>> > > at tree, i don't know. We could
>> > speak about
>> > > the manuel.
>> > > Olivier
>> > >
>> > > 2009/7/17 Helen McCall
>> > > <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Good thinking!
>> > >
>> > > I'll add you to the
>> > Authors. :-)
>> > >
>> > > Tchao, Helen
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 14:41
>> > -0500,
>> > > Jonathan Thomas wrote:
>> > > > Sounds great Helen! Let
>> > me know
>> > > once you publish your files
>> > into the
>> > > > help-manual branch. Also,
>> > I would
>> > > be happy to author some of
>> > the
>> > > > sections of the
>> > help-manual, once I
>> > > get some free time. Once we
>> > are
>> > > > all happy with the
>> > structure of the
>> > > manual, maybe we could split
>> > up
>> > > > some of the sections and
>> > double-team
>> > > it.
>> > > >
>> > > > Also, I have 70+ blog
>> > entries on
>> > > OpenShot, covering all sorts
>> > of
>> > > > topics. Lots of
>> > screenshots also.
>> > > Even though it's written in
>> > a
>> > > > different style than a
>> > help manual,
>> > > hopefully we will be able to
>> > use
>> > > > some of that content.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks!
>> > > > -Jonathan
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at
>> > 2:23 PM,
>> > > Helen McCall
>> > > >
>> > <wildnfree@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > > > Hello Olivier and
>> > Jonathan,
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm making
>> > progress setting
>> > > out the structure in Gnome
>> > Help
>> > > > format
>> > > > (Docbook XML), and
>> > I'm
>> > > testing it in the Gnome Help
>> > system
>> > > > (Yelp) as I'm
>> > > > going.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm using
>> > Jonathan's screen
>> > > shots for now to save time.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've put in
>> > credits:
>> > > >
>> > > > Authors: Helen
>> > McCall and
>> > > Olivier Girard
>> > > > Contributor:
>> > Jonathan Thomas
>> > > > Translator:
>> > Olivier Girard
>> > > > OpenShot
>> > Developer: Jonathan
>> > > Thomas
>> > > > OpenShot
>> > Contributor: Andy
>> > > Finch for the titling
>> > system.
>> > > >
>> > > > Manual Copyright:
>> > Helen
>> > > McCall, Olivier Girard,
>> > Jonathan
>> > > > Thomas 2009
>> > > > Publisher: Gnome
>> > > Documentation Project
>> > > >
>> > > > I've registered a
>> > new branch
>> > > in launchpad for the Manual:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > lp:~openshot.developers/openshot/help-manual
>> > > >
>> > > > I've set the
>> > "owner" to
>> > > "OpenShot Developers" so we
>> > can all
>> > > > access it.
>> > > >
>> > > > Tchao, Helen
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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