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Hi Andy,

How are you ? Perhaps tonight ?

I have always (not for a long time) my karmic in 32 bits for my HTPC. I have
done a update on this system (1.2.0 beta1), i have a  conflict encountered -
revision 332 after running openshot i have an Syntaxerror. Have the same ?
I'm going to check on the other

Cheers

2010/9/18 Andy Finch <we.rocked.in79@xxxxxxxxx>

> Has anyone else got a Karmic (9.10) install (maybe a virtualbox)? Just
> wondered if anyone else can verify a problem with the right click menu on
> the main project tree - it's not appearing & getting a python error.
>
> Andy.
>
>
> On 18 September 2010 12:28, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jonathan, (and hello, at this moment you go to sleep very late or
>> rather early !!!!!)
>>
>> Some anothers news effects very interesting here<http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476>
>> .
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>> Jonathan,
>>>
>>> Video : all the effects presents work fine
>>> Audio : a little doubt for the tremble but the others work fine too.
>>>
>>> For this week-end ? (i am nearly sure)[?][?]
>>>
>>> My general impression is that she is more and more stable (under
>>> blender/Python API)
>>>
>>> A suggestion: for the next version between one week (for  sample) we
>>> should launch a test campaign and same ask help on our forum.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  | So, to upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of
>>>> Sox.
>>>>
>>>> It is obligatory ? i have not yet installed MLT 0.5.10 on Lucid ? No ?
>>>>
>>>> Video:
>>>> Strange Burning tv was working great on Karmic.
>>>> Deinterlace :is it necesseray to remove it if it is working fine with
>>>> MLT 0.5.10 ? A advertisement could just do ? Marverick is not far a way and
>>>> with the PPA ........
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  | I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and different
>>>> computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just fine on MLT
>>>> 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.  Also, MLT
>>>> 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10 uses.  So, to
>>>> upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of Sox.
>>>>
>>>> I have re-tested and that works great now (a bad manipulation ?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  | I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect text
>>>> video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires converting
>>>> the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never could figure
>>>> that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until another day. =)
>>>>
>>>> Domage. It is really awesone It strikes the minds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  |
>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through for
>>>> bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>
>>>> Okay and i done some others tests for this effects at problems.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/17 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> Olivier, thanks for the feedback.  Here are the resolutions for the
>>>>> issues we have found so far:
>>>>>
>>>>> Video:
>>>>> -----------
>>>>> REMOVED - deinterlace - seg faults on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6. Works fine on
>>>>> MLT 0.5.10, but Ubuntu does not have that version yet.
>>>>> REMOVED - frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>> REMOVED - wave - seems broken on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6
>>>>> REMOVED - BurningTV - only black screen, seems broken on MLT 0.5.4 &
>>>>> 0.5.6
>>>>>
>>>>>  Audio:
>>>>> -----------
>>>>> FIXED - bass - not changing the sound
>>>>> FIXED - treble - not changing the sound
>>>>> FIXED - echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay ... ]
>>>>> FIXED - phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>> REMOVED - pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>> [overlap-ms]]].  The pitch effect seemed completely broken.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and different
>>>>> computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just fine on MLT
>>>>> 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.  Also, MLT
>>>>> 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10 uses.  So, to
>>>>> upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of Sox.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect text
>>>>> video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires converting
>>>>> the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never could figure
>>>>> that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until another day. =)
>>>>>
>>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through for
>>>>> bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice this puzzle transition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have finished my test on a Ubuntu 10.04 in 64 bits with all standard
>>>>>> And i note the following things :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>> ______
>>>>>>
>>>>>> two type of error : a seg faults for :
>>>>>> - freiOr.constrestor
>>>>>> -deinterlace
>>>>>> and a black window for :
>>>>>> -burning tv
>>>>>> -chroma key
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Audio:
>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay ... ]
>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have nothing in console for the others but same if i am not a sound
>>>>>> specialize, i have the impression that none ...........works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  | Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on the command
>>>>>> line using "play"
>>>>>> How do you test this sound effects in the command line "play" ? It can
>>>>>> help me to know what i must ..................hear before to test. And if
>>>>>> sox works (in command line) the problem not comes from him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I aml going to do some others tests with the last version of MLT (ie
>>>>>> 5.10) for this effects and after with the last version of FreiOr-plugins
>>>>>> always in a 10.04.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have found a little translation bug (or not ? ) When you add a
>>>>>> effect in the Clip Propertie (tab effect), none effect is translate while it
>>>>>> is the opposite in the tab effect in the main window. It is not the same
>>>>>> list ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beautiful this template for the Title animated 3D, i like this
>>>>>> clapboard/clapperboards template.
>>>>>> I hope that you could fix all the small bugs in the others files, i
>>>>>> find the little train very funny but too much quick. And the famous effect
>>>>>> particle (like the Youtube video that you have show us when you have speak
>>>>>> the first time) Have you managed to create.
>>>>>>  I don't remember if i have said about a bug when you create a name of
>>>>>> the title (see the screenshot),
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>> I made a modification to the puzzle transition.  It didn't really
>>>>>>> work the way that it was made.  The entire puzzle would just appear.  So, I
>>>>>>> made some of the pieces different shades of grey, and then softened the
>>>>>>> edges with a "blur" in gimp.  Check it out... it's kind of fun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't worry, i will be more available tomorrow and normally when you
>>>>>>>> wake up tomorrow............. it will done. [?]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't remember if i have told you about this new effect :
>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=553
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>> I was trying to not update any more translations, but now that I
>>>>>>>>> have lots of new blender animations to add in, I'll go ahead and re-generate
>>>>>>>>> the POT later tonight.  I've gone ahead and added the "missing frame" error
>>>>>>>>> message to the list of translations.  They will all be in LaunchPad by the
>>>>>>>>> time you wake up tomorrow... hopefully. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is us (and not Blender) in the BlendorGenerator.py line
>>>>>>>>>> 723/724.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With Andy, a user inform us that it miss a string to translate
>>>>>>>>>>> and after verification that's right. All was not genereted by the pot file !
>>>>>>>>>>> Here the subject :
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=552&p=2449#p2449
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes but do you think that can not be the 5.10 and the 1.2 ? They
>>>>>>>>>>>> can update their package like it is some great and important projects for
>>>>>>>>>>>> some others important projects (kdenlive, us) ? They have already done that
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lucid (i.e.MLT).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the versions in Maverick, and it looks like MLT
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a bit newer, but frei0r is the same version as in Lucid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Lucid is 0.5.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Maverick is 0.5.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frei0r is 1.1.22 (both Lucid and Maverick)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes but a thought: i suppose that this version (i.e. mlt &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freiOr-plugins) will be certainly in Marverick. No ? It is too late for them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With my tests, I was using the versions in the repository of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mlt, sox, and frei0r.  Since those packages are not in our PPA, I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assuming most users will just stick with the version in their distro's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll check out the blender files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two things :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here  some news greats blend files :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476#p2446
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the test, the new version of the  freior-plugins is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release. We can find it here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/ppa<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/ppa>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Must do the tests with this version or with the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'official" ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And which one version of MLT ? The last version is release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *Update:*  I have tested on Ubuntu 10.10 beta, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same issues are reproducible.  I guess these issues also existed for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last release of OpenShot, because they don't seem related to our code, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather some bug between MLT, Sox, and Frei0r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Jonathan Thomas <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been testing OpenShot on Ubuntu 10.04, and here are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the issues I'm having so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Video:* - A few video effects have give me some trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deinterlace - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wave - looks horrible, doesn't work correctly (at least no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seg fault though)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water - worked fine for me, but I removed it from bzr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Audio:* - These sox effects don't do anything for me...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but throw lots of these errors in the terminal output
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line using "play"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to continue to test on Ubuntu 10.04, and I will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test on Ubuntu 10.10 (to see if these issues still exist).  Also, I will try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the newest version of MLT and see what happens.  Please let me know if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can verify these errors on your own system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Olivier
>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Olivier
>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Olivier
>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>
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>>
>


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Olivier
Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
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