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I was believing than another revision was done since this  morning (that
could explain that) but no. I have no problem for launch it on Lucid.

2010/9/18 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>

> Hi Andy,
>
> How are you ? Perhaps tonight ?
>
> I have always (not for a long time) my karmic in 32 bits for my HTPC. I
> have done a update on this system (1.2.0 beta1), i have a  conflict
> encountered - revision 332 after running openshot i have an Syntaxerror.
> Have the same ? I'm going to check on the other
>
> Cheers
>
> 2010/9/18 Andy Finch <we.rocked.in79@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Has anyone else got a Karmic (9.10) install (maybe a virtualbox)? Just
>> wondered if anyone else can verify a problem with the right click menu on
>> the main project tree - it's not appearing & getting a python error.
>>
>> Andy.
>>
>>
>> On 18 September 2010 12:28, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jonathan, (and hello, at this moment you go to sleep very late or
>>> rather early !!!!!)
>>>
>>> Some anothers news effects very interesting here<http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476>
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>
>>>> Video : all the effects presents work fine
>>>> Audio : a little doubt for the tremble but the others work fine too.
>>>>
>>>> For this week-end ? (i am nearly sure)[?][?]
>>>>
>>>> My general impression is that she is more and more stable (under
>>>> blender/Python API)
>>>>
>>>> A suggestion: for the next version between one week (for  sample) we
>>>> should launch a test campaign and same ask help on our forum.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> 2010/9/17 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  | So, to upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of
>>>>> Sox.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is obligatory ? i have not yet installed MLT 0.5.10 on Lucid ? No ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Video:
>>>>> Strange Burning tv was working great on Karmic.
>>>>> Deinterlace :is it necesseray to remove it if it is working fine with
>>>>> MLT 0.5.10 ? A advertisement could just do ? Marverick is not far a way and
>>>>> with the PPA ........
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  | I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and different
>>>>> computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just fine on MLT
>>>>> 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.  Also, MLT
>>>>> 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10 uses.  So, to
>>>>> upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of Sox.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have re-tested and that works great now (a bad manipulation ?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  | I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect text
>>>>> video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires converting
>>>>> the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never could figure
>>>>> that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until another day. =)
>>>>>
>>>>> Domage. It is really awesone It strikes the minds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  |
>>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through for
>>>>> bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay and i done some others tests for this effects at problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/9/17 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>> Olivier, thanks for the feedback.  Here are the resolutions for the
>>>>>> issues we have found so far:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>> REMOVED - deinterlace - seg faults on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6. Works fine on
>>>>>> MLT 0.5.10, but Ubuntu does not have that version yet.
>>>>>> REMOVED - frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>>> REMOVED - wave - seems broken on MLT 0.5.4 & 0.5.6
>>>>>> REMOVED - BurningTV - only black screen, seems broken on MLT 0.5.4 &
>>>>>> 0.5.6
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Audio:
>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>> FIXED - bass - not changing the sound
>>>>>> FIXED - treble - not changing the sound
>>>>>> FIXED - echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay ... ]
>>>>>> FIXED - phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>> REMOVED - pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]].  The pitch effect seemed completely broken.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tested the Chroma Key effect on different languages and different
>>>>>> computers, and never got a black screen.  It seems to work just fine on MLT
>>>>>> 0.5.4 and 0.5.6, which are the main versions used by Ubuntu.  Also, MLT
>>>>>> 0.5.10 will not work with the version of Sox that Ubuntu 10.10 uses.  So, to
>>>>>> upgrade to MLT 0.5.10, we also need to upgrade the version of Sox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have not been able to re-produce the Blender particle effect text
>>>>>> video we found on YouTube.  To create that effect, it requires converting
>>>>>> the text curve object into a mesh (with vertices), and I never could figure
>>>>>> that out with the Python API.  That will have to wait until another day. =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please get the latest version, and give it one more run through for
>>>>>> bugs.  That's what I'm going to focus on the rest of today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice this puzzle transition.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have finished my test on a Ubuntu 10.04 in 64 bits with all
>>>>>>> standard And i note the following things :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Video:
>>>>>>> ______
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> two type of error : a seg faults for :
>>>>>>> - freiOr.constrestor
>>>>>>> -deinterlace
>>>>>>> and a black window for :
>>>>>>> -burning tv
>>>>>>> -chroma key
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Audio:
>>>>>>> _____
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay ... ]
>>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have nothing in console for the others but same if i am not a sound
>>>>>>> specialize, i have the impression that none ...........works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  | Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on the command
>>>>>>> line using "play"
>>>>>>> How do you test this sound effects in the command line "play" ? It
>>>>>>> can help me to know what i must ..................hear before to test. And
>>>>>>> if sox works (in command line) the problem not comes from him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I aml going to do some others tests with the last version of MLT (ie
>>>>>>> 5.10) for this effects and after with the last version of FreiOr-plugins
>>>>>>> always in a 10.04.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have found a little translation bug (or not ? ) When you add a
>>>>>>> effect in the Clip Propertie (tab effect), none effect is translate while it
>>>>>>> is the opposite in the tab effect in the main window. It is not the same
>>>>>>> list ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beautiful this template for the Title animated 3D, i like this
>>>>>>> clapboard/clapperboards template.
>>>>>>> I hope that you could fix all the small bugs in the others files, i
>>>>>>> find the little train very funny but too much quick. And the famous effect
>>>>>>> particle (like the Youtube video that you have show us when you have speak
>>>>>>> the first time) Have you managed to create.
>>>>>>>  I don't remember if i have said about a bug when you create a name
>>>>>>> of the title (see the screenshot),
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>> I made a modification to the puzzle transition.  It didn't really
>>>>>>>> work the way that it was made.  The entire puzzle would just appear.  So, I
>>>>>>>> made some of the pieces different shades of grey, and then softened the
>>>>>>>> edges with a "blur" in gimp.  Check it out... it's kind of fun.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't worry, i will be more available tomorrow and normally when
>>>>>>>>> you wake up tomorrow............. it will done. [?]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't remember if i have told you about this new effect :
>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=553
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>> I was trying to not update any more translations, but now that I
>>>>>>>>>> have lots of new blender animations to add in, I'll go ahead and re-generate
>>>>>>>>>> the POT later tonight.  I've gone ahead and added the "missing frame" error
>>>>>>>>>> message to the list of translations.  They will all be in LaunchPad by the
>>>>>>>>>> time you wake up tomorrow... hopefully. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is us (and not Blender) in the BlendorGenerator.py line
>>>>>>>>>>> 723/724.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> With Andy, a user inform us that it miss a string to translate
>>>>>>>>>>>> and after verification that's right. All was not genereted by the pot file !
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here the subject :
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=552&p=2449#p2449
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Olivier Girard <eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes but do you think that can not be the 5.10 and the 1.2 ? They
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can update their package like it is some great and important projects for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some others important projects (kdenlive, us) ? They have already done that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lucid (i.e.MLT).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just checked the versions in Maverick, and it looks like MLT
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a bit newer, but frei0r is the same version as in Lucid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Lucid is 0.5.4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MLT in Maverick is 0.5.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frei0r is 1.1.22 (both Lucid and Maverick)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yes but a thought: i suppose that this version (i.e. mlt &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freiOr-plugins) will be certainly in Marverick. No ? It is too late for them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With my tests, I was using the versions in the repository of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mlt, sox, and frei0r.  Since those packages are not in our PPA, I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assuming most users will just stick with the version in their distro's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll check out the blender files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Olivier Girard <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eolinwen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two things :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here  some news greats blend files :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=476#p2446
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the test, the new version of the  freior-plugins is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release. We can find it here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/ppa<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/ppa>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Must do the tests with this version or with the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'official" ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And which one version of MLT ? The last version is release
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid<https://launchpad.net/%7Esunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=lucid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/9/16 Jonathan Thomas <jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *Update:*  I have tested on Ubuntu 10.10 beta, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same issues are reproducible.  I guess these issues also existed for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last release of OpenShot, because they don't seem related to our code, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather some bug between MLT, Sox, and Frei0r.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Jonathan Thomas <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonathan.oomph@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have been testing OpenShot on Ubuntu 10.04, and here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are the issues I'm having so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Video:* - A few video effects have give me some trouble
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deinterlace - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frei0r.scanline0r - seg faults
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wave - looks horrible, doesn't work correctly (at least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no seg fault though)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> water - worked fine for me, but I removed it from bzr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Audio:* - These sox effects don't do anything for me...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but throw lots of these errors in the terminal output
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> echo: usage: gain-in gain-out delay decay [ delay decay
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phaser: parameter `decay' must be between 0 and 0.99
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pitch: usage: [-q] shift-in-cents [segment-ms [search-ms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [overlap-ms]]]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note:  These effects work fine when calling them on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line using "play"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to continue to test on Ubuntu 10.04, and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will test on Ubuntu 10.10 (to see if these issues still exist).  Also, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will try with the newest version of MLT and see what happens.  Please let me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if you can verify these errors on your own system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jonathan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShot : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez :
>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Olivier
>>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Olivier
>>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Olivier
>>> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
>>> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
>>> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
>>> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
>>> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> Olivier
> Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
> Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
> http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
> Le forum d'Openshot où vous me trouverez : http://openshotusers.com/
> http://openshotusers.com/forum/index.php
>



-- 
Olivier
Cenwen un elfe sur la banquise/ an elve on the ice
Mon blog perso  sur le multimédia, Ubuntu, Linux et OpenShot :
http://linuxevolution.wordpress.com/
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