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[Benoit <luxeisdust@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi everybody

i guess he just forgot to install all the .deb :)
Adam gave the headers as well so no need to recompile everytthing

virtualbox working for me with Adams .deb :)

thanks again Adam i managed to use my computer during my whole train
trip today :)

Benoit


On 10/29/2010 07:35 PM, K. Posern wrote:
> Hi Adam,
> Hi Jan,
> 
> Thanks for your feedback on this issue.
> 
> I like the idea of telling people (politely) to
> google/bingle/yahoogle... or use the mailing-list archive :)
> 
>>  shoot... feet... if we don't support each other.
> Because I like the idea of supporting each other ... but after a certain
> minimum of self-effort to resolve the problem (e.g. by doing the above
> first).
> 
> I can understand that one can get angry about people for just being lazy
> and/or thoughtless when posting to a mailing-list.
> But it's better to stay polite - agreed :)
> I hope my tone was not to harsh.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Knuth
> 
> ---
> 
> On 10/29/2010 05:35 AM, Jan Groth wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> as a reader (not a writer) of this mailinglist, I strongly discourage the
>> idea to split up into two separate lists. I like to follow (and benefit
>> from) the information the way it is.
>>
>> I fully support Adam's point: This is not a general Linux forum, BUT if
>> unrelated questions do pop up, there's certainly a way to say this is a
>> polite and friendly way. Because at the end of the day we (Linux users) are
>> shooting in our own feet if we don't support each other.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Jan
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Adam Hill <sidepipeuk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> I actually have to agree to Norbert.
>>>
>>>         Hmm, I agree with Norbert but I don't agree with the tone. If
>>> people are
>>> going to get annoyed everytime someone else does something which they don't
>>> approve of then maybe they need to go off and form their own society,
>>> because
>>> it will always happen :(.
>>>
>>>        In defence of Denys, he probably just assumed that it was an issue
>>> with
>>> my particular kernel, which IS sony z series related and information about
>>> it
>>> can only be found here. That is obviously an incorrect assumption but for
>>> someone who is trying to get Linux running who does not understand the
>>> technical stuff ( which is the sort of person that Linux needs to appeal to
>>> if
>>> it has any hope of mass adoption ) would not necessarily understand that or
>>> know where to find the answers. Any mailing list that you care to set up
>>> which
>>> doesn't have some sort of an examination as a membership qualification will
>>> fall foul of the same thing eventually. If people would just play nicely
>>> then
>>> the world would be a better place... ( Adam gets off his soap box now. )
>>>
>>>        Let me make it clear though that my kernel is based on a
>>> pre-release, and
>>> the Intel fixes are also new. This list isn't the place to get support on
>>> either, unless you are asking about specific Z series components which do
>>> not
>>> work AND you have looked on your favourite search engine for the answers
>>> first! Then the thread would be about how to get the component working,
>>> which
>>> is sort of the point of this list :).
>>>
>>>        Denys - VirtualBox DOES work on my kernel because I use it - I
>>> thought
>>> that the latest VirtualBox had all of the necessary patches included, but
>>> search google for "VirtualBox 2.6.36" and you should find the answers.
>>>
>>> Adam.
>>>
>>>
>>>> And I can add from my perspective:
>>>> That it would be nice to not have everybody that tries to install an
>>>> UBUNTU system gets full user-support via this mailing list (I am talking
>>>> about the cases that took in 10-15 back and forth mails and did not
>>>> reveal any /new/ or /updated/ information - except for the newbie trying
>>>> to use Ubuntu without reading one of the howtos out there already for
>>>> this).
>>>>
>>>> Norbert:
>>>> Maybe the solution is to split off into our own mailing-list?
>>>> I could try to organize this.
>>>>
>>>> Adam: Would you join us?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway we were all young once... but a bit more rtfm would be nice :)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Knuth
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> On 10/28/2010 12:05 PM, Norbert Preining wrote:
>>>>> On Do, 28 Okt 2010, Denys Pasishnyi wrote:
>>>>>> Excuse me! In first email I don't explain good my question.
>>>>>
>>>>> And even in the second it has nothing to do genuinely with SOny
>>> laptops?
>>>>> It is just that you don't know how to manage a linux system..
>>>>>
>>>>>> Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 2.6.36-0-vaioz cannot be found
>>> at
>>>>>> /lib/modules/2.6.36-0-vaioz/build or
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.36-0-vaioz/source.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you have to compile your own kernel with the patches necessary,
>>>>> otherwise you will not get virtualbox nor vmware to run, that is life.
>>>>>
>>>>> Norbert
>>>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Norbert Preining            preining@{jaist.ac.jp, logic.at,
>>> debian.org}
>>>>> JAIST, Japan                                 TeX Live & Debian
>>> Developer
>>>>> DSA: 0x09C5B094   fp: 14DF 2E6C 0307 BE6D AD76  A9C0 D2BF 4AA3 09C5
>>> B094
>>>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> on the side of packets of food or washing powder to explain why
>>>>> there's hardly anything inside. Examples include 'Contents may have
>>>>> settled in transit' and 'To keep each biscuit fresh they have been
>>>>> individually wrapped in silver paper and cellophane and separated with
>>>>> corrugated lining, a cardboard flap, and heavy industrial tyres'.
>>>>>
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