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["Ali/amjjawad" <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi George and everyone else,

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 10:39 PM, George DiceGeorge <dicegeorge@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> maybe you misunderstand me,
> http://torios.dicenews.com/
> is only set up as a temporary address
> until torios.net or torios.top etc
> are pointed there,
> which ould take five minutes.
>
> Its provided by http://www.hatters.org.uk/
>

Indeed I understood and that is why I sent more than one email to explain
the situation and make things clear. We don't need temporary solutions.
While it might seems weird/odd but I prefer our website to be down rather
than waste time and energy on building a temporary website that might serve
us few days.

You see, we have waited for so long to have a decent website. I'm
personally not interested in temporary solutions and I think Nio agrees
with me.




>
> They are not ‘professional’ in the sense that they’re not asking for money,
> however as its run by a co-op there is less chance of losing the space
> due to a death or bankruptcy,
> which is the case with small businesses which often overextend themselves.
>

I understand :)
Thanks for explaining!


>
> However i suggest you retain control of the domain name just in case
> (but what if/when whoever owns the domain name dies ??
> (i’ve added mine into my will))
>
> They dont offer cpanel,
> but do forward an email address.
>
> I’ve used them for many years for many websites without any major problems,
> www.tlio.org.uk etc etc
>
>

The great news is:
https://austenite.co.uk/

Kris has updated his packages:
https://austenite.co.uk/forum.html#/discussion/4/new-better-pricing-and-ssl

It means, in case we agree, the amount of money that we are suppose to
invest into ToriOS is less now :)

Oh, and we have 1 month for free.
And, we can upgrade or downgrade free of charge at any point.

torios.top is ready. I did not yet sign up for the server.

I am not sure how much traffic do we need but looking at the NEW starter
package after the latest update, it sounds good option for us.

Yes, I think I can also provide emails or forwarders.

@Nio
I saw your other email. Couldn't reply though.
I agree with you, it is better to pay for 12 months (1 year) rather than 12
times every month.

I am NOT yet sure which package is good for us? assuming starter is good
enough:
3 Pound/Month
36 Pound/Year

I am not sure who else is willing to donate beside Nio?

The more people we have, the less each one will pay per year :)



> [george]
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ali/amjjawad <amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 2, 2016 10:21 PM
> *To:* toriOS Mailing list <torios@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject:* [Torios] The History of ToriOS Websites
>
> Dear all,
>
> Because some of us have misunderstood my email lately about donating for a
> server and get our website to live on, here is some CLEAR email to shade
> the light on the history of ToriOS websites :)
>
>
>    1. torios.org was the first domain that ToriOS project got. However,
>    the one who registered that domain had the entire access to the domain and
>    server and none of us had full access, even me the founder of this project.
>    One bad day, he disappeared and we have never heard of him ever again until
>    this very moment. What happened to torios.org at the moment? check
>    yourself: https://www.gandi.net/whois/details?search=torios.com and we
>    have lost our dedicated email address. I had amjjawad@xxxxxxxxxx but
>    not any more.
>    2. Phill of the Lubuntu has donated a domain torios.net and a virtual
>    machine where torios.net lived. However, because it was FREE and there
>    is no obligations whatsoever except friendship and good will to help, that
>    wasn't good enough to be honest. What happened to torios.net? check
>    yourself. It has been down for so many times and we have not been able to
>    share one single post on our website for ages now!
>    3. Now, when I suggest to have a decent server with a decent company
>    which is owned by decent man I vouch for him, when some money involved,
>    some seem to refuse the idea. Sorry, but that's the one and only path I
>    have in mind at the moment and as a founder, I find it the best path ever
>    to avoid unneeded problems.
>    4. NO to any temporary solution :) I am sorry if I'll sound rude to
>    George but having something like: http://torios.dicenews.com/
>    <http://torios.dicenews.com/wp-admin> is not decent at all. ToriOS is
>    not a toy, it's a decent project and the website should be something to
>    reflect that as well.
>    5. I have myself tried the FREE solutions. http://kibo.computer/ was
>    my business project. Out of 12 months, the website was down for 4 months
>    total or more. Why? that's what happens when you think FREE solutions FTW.
>    In fact, FREE is not always good at all :)
>
>
>
> So, hopefully this will enlighten us a bit :)
>
>
>
> If by any chance you have BETTER solutions/ideas, kindly share :)
>
> HOWEVER, before you do, kindly keep in mind that ToriOS website should NOT
> be down for ages just because of whatever non logical reason.
>
>
>
> We have a project to run, not a joke to tell.
>
>
>
> --
> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>
> Best Regards,
> Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>
>
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Best Regards,
Ali/amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad>

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