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[Ho Wan Chan <smartboyhw@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ah I actually started to think of a point... Ubiquity always has problems
sometimes. These few days it has become more unstable then before. I have
never reported a bug in the ISO QA Tracker, but jsut these few days I
reported 2. Not good.

2012/8/29 Karl Anliot <kanliot@xxxxxxxxx>

> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Nicholas Skaggs
> <nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On 08/28/2012 09:34 AM, Anthony Byrne wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree with A. Grandi! The alternate installer is *much* more stable
> >> than any live CD. And what about SSH installation?
> >>
> >> I second the community vote idea, as well. The other *buntus are very
> >> likely to follow suit, so I believe in at least giving the public a
> >> heads-up.
> >>
> >> --
> >> A. Byrne
> >>
> >> On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:23 AM, "a.grandi@xxxxxxxxx" <a.grandi@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On 28 August 2012 07:04, Nicholas Skaggs <
> nicholas.skaggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> FYI -- as spoken of earlier, here's the details on dropping the
> >>>> alternate
> >>>> installer in 12.10. Again, this is just for ubuntu, and not a decision
> >>>> for
> >>>> any flavors. As far as I know, no flavors have committed to dropping
> the
> >>>> alternate cd's. This transition will occur with the next milestone,
> >>>> which is
> >>>> Beta 1. As part of this, we'll need to migrate the alternate testcases
> >>>> and
> >>>> add new testcases in support of the new features in ubiquity. Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> so you have already decided? I did think there was a discussion before
> >>> proceding, but it looks like this change will already take its effect
> >>> starting from the next beta. Don't you think we should ask first the
> >>> community what they think about? It's non sense that in less than 24
> >>> hours you start the discussion on ubuntu-devel and you have already
> >>> decided for everyone. I can't get it, sorry.
> >>>
> >>> Let me say that this is the worst idea ever proposed! I won't be able
> >>> to use Ubuntu on my desktop anymore because I'm using a RAID 1 setup
> >>> and I want to do a safe installation not using some workaround later
> >>> after installation and risking to loose my data.
> >>>
> >>> Even more, alternate install CD is the only way for some PC to
> >>> complete the installation. You can't imagine how many time I had to
> >>> use alternate installer because ubiquity was freezing.
> >>>
> >>> I really cannot understand how you can propose something that will
> >>> make Ubuntu worse than it is,
> >>> We're supposed to make Ubuntu BETTER not worse.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Andrea Grandi - Nokia-DX/Tampere / Qt Ambassador
> >>> Ubuntu Member: https://launchpad.net/~andreagrandi
> >>> website: http://www.andreagrandi.it
> >>>
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> >
> > As Brendan said, I would encourage those of you who have concerns to post
> > them back to the ubuntu-devel list @ Steve et la for discussion. If you
> > remember back to UDS, the original idea as discussed was that no
> > functionality would be lost (aka, the live cd would get support for
> > everything the alternate cd could do). They've come close, but RAID
> support
> > didn't quite happen.
> >
> > Note that If the alternates are dropped for ubuntu, going forward, if you
> > wish to install with RAID (or simply want to use an alternative
> installer)
> > you still have the option of using the netboot or mini iso.
> >
> >
> > Nicholas
> >
>
> Ubuntu is dropping something that people love, see:
>
> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/yydbp/ubuntu_alternate_cds_could_be_dropped_for_1210/
> In favor of something that Ubuntu created.  Have I seen this before?
> Never mind that some percentage of people can't use the Desktop
> installer.  Think of it as a little surprise for new users.
> </sarcasm>
>
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