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[Rick Spencer <rick.spencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Is this not exactly how the Apple ecosystem works today? I think they push
everyone on all of their platforms to the latest release, so app developers
have a small set of API versions to worry about. My only point is, I this
dream is achievable :)

Cheers, Rick


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Sergio Schvezov <
sergio.schvezov@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On miércoles 20 de agosto de 2014 05h'45:57 ART, Daniel Holbach wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On 19.08.2014 20:51, Martin Albisetti wrote:
>>
>>> So I think we shouldn't do anything from a feature point of view.
>>> What we should tell developers is that they should update their apps
>>> frequently, and that they should always upload to the store versions
>>> of the frameworks that are on devices already. We will need to provide
>>> that information so they know percentages of users who have each
>>> framework, I will take that as a ToDo (hi Matias!).
>>>
>>
>> just so I understand this correctly: the app namespace will be different
>> for the same app targeting a different framework? This would mean that
>> upgrades across frameworks wouldn't work seamlessly.
>>
>>
>>  Our goal is to not fragment our ecosystem in any significant way,
>>> which means we will for the most part update the majority of the
>>> devices in the wild at the same time.
>>> Right now, that means the recommended target framework is
>>> ubuntu-sdk-14.10, and it will continue to be so until we have pushed
>>> ubuntu-sdk-15.04 to all devices out there. Once the scale of number of
>>> users that have 15.04 tips past a certain point, we can start
>>> recommending developers upload with the 15.04 framework.
>>>
>>
>> Users will use their handsets for a while and we are all hoping to get
>> many devices out there, so at any time there will be a multitude of
>> supported frameworks out there.
>>
>> Maybe I'm misunderstanding all of this, but to me it sounds like if I am
>> a developer who's actively working on an app, I might have to have
>> com.ubuntu.developer.dholbach.superapp1410,
>> com.ubuntu.developer.dholbach.superapp1504,
>> com.ubuntu.developer.dholbach.superapp1510, etc in the store.
>>
>> Is this correct?
>>
>>
>>  My assumptions are that we will:
>>> - Update the base systems of all our devices in the same timeframe
>>>
>>
>> Can you elaborate what this means?
>>
>
> This is the dream; I think the objective is to not be like Android and
> have different releases out in the wild with a high dispersion in the
> population. Ideally, our dispersion should be small and with a mean
> trending to the latest stable release; which means, everyone is basically
> on the latest framework. This is why we have a customization framework
> instead of people changing the ubuntu rootfs directly.
>
> With that though, the developers just need to target the frameworks that
> exist on that higly used latest release.
>
>
>
>  - We will not introduce new target frameworks outside of new versions of
>>> the OS
>>>
>>
>> I'm not quite sure what this means either.
>>
>>
>>  If those don't pan out in reality, we can fall back on handling
>>> multiple versions and find the best way to do that.
>>>
>>> Am happy to have a hangout about it, of course.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, a hangout (with a diagram for me ;-)) might do wonders.
>>
>> Have a great day,
>>   Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>
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