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[Pedro Villavicencio Garrido <pedro@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hola,

El sáb, 02-01-2010 a las 21:31 -0500, Brian Curtis escribió:
> Hi Sense,
> 
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Sense Hofstede <sense@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I agree that there are too many mentees without mentor and too many
> > mentors without mentee at the moment. Maybe we should make it more
> > clear how to pick a mentee and make someone responsible for keeping
> > the wiki page[1] up-to-date and clean. E.g. I'm not sure if the list
> > of mentee-candidates at the bottom of the wiki page[1] is still
> > relevant, or if we will use just the LP team[2] for keeping track of
> > the mentors and mentees.
> 
> I don't believe the wiki page is used anymore to track the mentees.
> The LP page was made for that purpose if I recall correctly.

We created the bugsquad-mentorship group to track and assign students to
mentors yes, but also the wiki page is updated when someone is mentoring
a student.

> 
> > What we need is: a clear set of guidelines -- also for picking a
> > mentee --  and someone who is ultimately responsible for the mentor
> > program, so we know who to talk to and there is someone who can do the
> > things that otherwise would be forgotten. Currently, I feel, some
> > things -- like responding to mentee-candidates -- aren't always done
> > because no one seems to have the responsibility for it, and therefore
> > everyone assumes someone else will do it or has done it.
> 
> Maybe mentees could use the wiki page to e-mail a few mentors that fit
> their availability, then request them to be their mentor.  This would
> require that all mentors have their available times on the wiki page.
> Currently the workflow on the wiki page on how to request a mentor is
> fine, but adding this step above may help put a mentee with a mentor
> faster.  The only updating that would then have to be done to the wiki
> would be adding mentees names to their respective mentors, which
> should be done by the mentors themselves.

The problem is that not all the mentees have an area of interest and
instead they put something like "desktop" which we know is far more than
that. 

And yes, the mentor(s) should update the wiki page when taking/leaving a
student, that's part of their job.

> 
> > I suggest to make two or more people responsible for 'triaging' mentor
> > requests, i.e. responding to people, redirecting them to the right
> > places if necessary and process correct applications. Once a month (or
> > more frequently?) they could send a list with mentee-candidates
> > waiting for a mentor, to assure the mentors don't forget people. As a
> > bonus the request date could be added so we know who is waiting the
> > longest.
> 
> I agree there should be a couple people who help push mentees in the
> right direction until they are taken in by a mentor.  By having them
> e-mail mentors it will keep the mentees involved and in their own
> hands to find a mentor. 

That's why we created the bugsquad-mentorship group, sadly it was a bit
more than a week before holidays so we didn't had a lot of time to work
on that, but that's a work in progress for us now.

Sense raised one important thing there, there's not a lot of people
triaging those mentorship requests, so if you want to help with that,
reply to this email so we can start working on setting up a new group of
people to perform that task. 

Have a nice day and Happy new year ;-)

pedro.