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[chris hermansen <clhermansen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Tim and list;

Thanks for you patience!  A few more observations below:

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Tim <darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> On 13/11/12 11:59, chris hermansen wrote:
>
> Tim and list:
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Tim <darkxst@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 10/11/12 13:05, chris hermansen wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone;
>>
>>   ...
>
>>
>>  First, between the TweakTool and gconf and dconf it is not really
>> obvious (as far as I can tell) which tool should be used, but as far as I
>> am able to determine, gconf may not apply to Gnome 3 at all (judging by the
>> values for some of the settings I have changed elsewhere not appearing in
>> gconf); and dconf may or may not have effect on Gnome 3; for instance, I
>> can't seem to use it to move the window buttons to the left hand side of
>> the title bar, despite various comments that indicate that should be
>> possible.
>>
>>  For gnome-shell, gnome-tweak-tool, dconf-editor and gsettings are the
>> programs to use. There are some settings in gnome fallback mode that rely
>> on the old gconf settings, however fallback is going to be dropped for 3.8
>>
>
>  Thanks for that advice.  I will delete gconf.  Here is an example of
> what doesn't work in either TweakTool nor dconf.
>
>  TweakTool offers "Arrangement of buttons on the titlebar" and the
> choices are
> - close only
> - maximize and close
> - minimize and close
> - all
>
>  However the positioning is only to the right of the window.  Looking in
> dconf, there is
>
>  org>desktop>wm>preferences>button-layout
>
>  but as nearly as I can tell, changing this has no effect.  Maybe this is
> only read by metacity?
>
>
> try org.gnome.shell.overrides button-layout (in dconf-editor)
>

YES!!! works a treat, thanks!

>
>     Second, the only way I found to make some of the customizations I
>> wanted was to edit various configuration files in /usr/share... I would be
>> happy to share more info on that if anyone is interested, including diffs
>> and the rationale behind them.
>>
>>  Some settings such as gdm greeter  need to be set using schema override
>> files, however nearly all other user settings should be available using the
>> 3 above mentioned tools.
>>
>
>  Here are some things which I have only been able to change by editing
> configuration files:
> - turning of a11y in the top bar
>
> there is an extension to do this (or atleast there used to be)
>

I see on the Gnome Extensions site
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/112/remove-accesibility/ which looks
like it might do the job.

>
>   - changing the font and its size in the top bar (too big, and I prefer
> ubuntu to cantarell)
>
> tweak tool should be able to handle the font size, font is hardcoded in
> the css file though.
>

I don't see anything obvious in TweakTool to change the font size.  Maybe
there is something I can do with a user theme; I haven't investigated that.

>
>   - reducing the size of the application icons in "Show Applications"
>
> again there is likely an extension for this, if not it would be trivial to
> create one.
>

hmm perhaps in the Activities Configurator, haven't tried that.

>
>   - making the title bar go away when the window is maximized
>
> This is the default behaviour if using Adwaita, however if using
> Ambiance/Ubuntu theme the required code is I believe missing from the
> ubuntu themes.
>

You could be corect in saying this is the default Adwaita behaviour, though
I think that I was using the default Adwaita behaviour originally and that
was not the case.  Definitely I have not been using Ambiance / Ubuntu as
this is a fresh Gnome remix install.  Ie without Unity.

I see there is a shell extension called Maximus which looks like it might
do the trick.


>
> In general you don't really want to be patching the source, since it will
> get overriden each time the package is updated. That is why there is an
> extension system, and most of the things you mentioned would be very
> trivial extensions to create (if they don't already exist).
>

I should say that I would rather not edit configuration files.  I ended up
doing that with Unity-2d and it is a PITA and clearly just a hack for lack
of a configuration tool.


-- 
Chris Hermansen · clhermansen@xxxxxxxxx

C'est ma façon de parler.