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[Nathanel Titane <nathanel.titane@xxxxxxxxx>]

In the case that option 2 'wins', what would then be the extent of
delivering a so called 'well integrate gnome experience'?


On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Everaldo Canuto
<everaldo.canuto@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Well, I prefer option 2 because a vanilla GNOME can't attend end users.
>
>
> 2012/12/2 Nathanel Titane <nathanel.titane@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> Alessandro has a good point, and I would rather go with option 1: Gnome
>> using ubuntu base
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Everaldo Canuto <
>> everaldo.canuto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Well, let me share my experiences here in Brazil. I am a consultant and
>>> have a few customers, all small offices running Linux (all Ubuntu) and
>>> after Unity they start to complain about changes.
>>>
>>> They are all normal users, none of them are technical and also none of
>>> them are able to run a single command line (well, maybe some of them can
>>> but they wont).
>>>
>>> Some months ago I install GNOME Shell on some computers, change the
>>> default theme and make small changes and first users start to love their
>>> Linux machines. With Ubuntu GNOME Remix I installed some other machines and
>>> just receive more complains about Firefox/Chrome, LibreOffice and USC.
>>>
>>> So, after some tweaks I get a perfect box for them that is this two
>>> commands:
>>>
>>> apt-get -y purge \
>>>     abiword gnumeric onboard gwibber* gnome-orca whoopsie \
>>>     gnome-games gnome-games-data gnome-sudoku aisleriot gnomine \
>>>     gnome-games-extra-data gnuchess gnuchess-book libgtkspell-3-0
>>> python-virtkey
>>>
>>> apt-get -y install  \
>>>  firefox chromium-browser gimp inkscape xchat software-center\
>>> libreoffice nautilus-dropbox unrar p7zip lm-sensors \
>>>  ubuntu-restricted-extras icedtea-6-plugin flashplugin-installer \
>>> gdebi-core thunderbird
>>>
>>> Also, I install some locale for pt-br and they are now so happy!
>>>
>>> I have my custom iso that includes all of this things and I also agree
>>> that I will never get a perfect box without some tweaks but you guys need
>>> to know how happy Ubuntu users could be with this two apt-get lines.
>>>
>>> Ah, some people prefer Firefox, other Chome but all agree that Firefox
>>> looks more "integrated" to the system, probably because firefox theme is
>>> more Gnomeish.
>>>
>>> I am not proposing to make all of this changes, I know that we have
>>> problems to ship java, restricted-extras and flash but we can't have a
>>> "Linux for Human Beings" without LibreOffice, Software Center and Firefox.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/12/2 Alessandro Scarozza <xan.scale@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> we must make a decision: do we want gnome vanilla over the ubuntu
>>>> repository or we want a ubuntu with gnome shell instead of unity?
>>>>
>>>> both ideas are good, but they are at odds. I think a poll open to the
>>>> mailing list is the best thing.
>>>>
>>>> 1 gnome OS over ubuntu repo is like gnome reference iso but using
>>>> ubuntu packages and repository
>>>> 2 ubuntu with gnome shell is ubuntu without unity and with gnome-shell
>>>> package
>>>>
>>>> 2012/12/2 Everaldo Canuto <everaldo.canuto@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> > I think that we don't need to think too much about this decision,
>>>> most of us
>>>> > agree with USC.
>>>> >
>>>> > Also, maybe we need to patch USC a little to be sure it look ok in
>>>> Adwaita
>>>> > theme. I think that one of the reason we did not include it at first
>>>> was
>>>> > because it looks a little odd on GNOME.
>>>> >
>>>> > Now we just need to include Firefox and LibreOffice and we will have
>>>> a user
>>>> > friendly desktop by default.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 2012/12/2 Samuel Monsarrat <smonsarr.junk@xxxxxxx>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> +1, I find GPK is less than usable at the moment, and while I
>>>> personally
>>>> >> instantly install Synaptic and use that, USC is by far the best bet
>>>> at the
>>>> >> moment.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Samuel.
>>>> >>
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