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[Doc Kinne <kinnerc@xxxxxxxxx>]

Robert:

On 24 Apr , 2009, at 15:41, Robert Wall wrote:

> A preface: I am not an Ubuntu channel operator, I just hang around in
> #ubuntu* channels entirely too often for my own good.
>
> For those who haven't raid the guidelines we're discussing, here's the
> link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
>
> > Language and Subject
> >
> >      * All the #ubuntu channels are visited by people whose ages
> >        vary, and whose tolerances of language and subject choice vary
> >        equally as much. Please be considerate of everyone and keep
> >        all the #ubuntu channels family friendly. For general chatter
> >        you can visit #ubuntu-offtopic, but please be aware that there
> >        are limits to behaviour and subjects in there also. When using
> >        any #ubuntu channel, please avoid the use of swearing and take
> >        touchy subject choices such as war, race, religion, politics
> >        (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality,
> >        drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of ones self
> >        from the planet are taken to other channels such as #off-topic
> >        or ##politics. (Note Freenode Policy when you join those
> >        channels.)

Absolutely excellent!

Nowhere in this policy does it mention any group at all, but it  
applies to all groups. In fact, the only thing that I can think that  
is gray - and I think it has to be - is that MY family would see  
mentions and discussions of husbands, etc. are family friendly where I  
can see some people might not think that. And that "gray area" is what  
we have moderators for, of course.

> The ban on gender and sexuality discussion does not "target LGBT  
> people"
> any more than the ban on political discussion targets anarchists. If  
> it
> were unfairly applied, it could do so, but in my experience it is not.

Yes, I see that.

> > Now, I say that, at this point, not exactly having READ it so I may  
> > be
> > talking out of my butt (although that hasn't happened in at least the
> > last 5 milliseconds!)
>
> That would probably be a good start, yes :)


:-D Right!

No, the policy, as its written, seems like it says exactly what it  
should. Now, if its enforced with equality then things should be OK,  
and if not, we have ways of addressing problems like that within the  
community.

As such, I would go so far to say that the original statement to our  
original poster was an incorrect "shortcut" statement. There IS no  
policy against LGBT anything, but there is a general, across the board  
policy against discussions that are, frankly, off-topic.

I like it. (And I'm sure everyone is just so relieved at  
that.  :-)  ).   I think I'm gonna go home now and see if I can get  
Xubuntu 9.04 installed on my Pentium II laptop.  :-)
---
Richard "Doc" Kinne • Rikardo «Dokĉjo» KINNE, BA, MSc., AMAAS
<kinnerc @ gmail.com>
"I'm the Doctor, and you're in the biggest library in the universe.  
Look me up!"
- The Doctor
"Forests of the Dead," Doctor Who

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