Hannie,
Thank you for your quick reply, and your support!
I regret my statement about removing Nautilus from the manual...it was
unfounded and premature...going to "Help | About" showed that Nautilus
was still present. Duh...why didn't I think about checking there? I
seemed to have been attributing Nautilus' "perceived" differences to
what I now understand to be slight influences of Unity 3D and/or Unity
2D on this application's 'look and feel'.
I did some research today on the difference between the two shell
interfaces. I appear to be running Unity 3D (based on a list of
differences between 2D and 3D I was able to find online---if someone
has a command-line way to see what interfaces are installed and in
use, let me know!)
Because there may be differences between what someone may see in 2D vs
3D, I added a 'warning' tag at the beginning of the Nautilus section
essentially reminding the reader that the following information
(including screenshot) is (now) based on Unity 3D. Maybe this warning
should go into the first subsection of this chapter where Unity is
first discussed, since Unity influences everything it displays?! I
then went through and read each line and tested each command, making
changes to menu names and other slight tweaks as needed. Since you
are the original author, could you take a few minutes to work through
the Nautilus section again to see if it makes sense? Maybe someone
else who has 3D can do this as well.
I just finished committing and pushing rev 14 to precise-e2 with ALL
the changes.
Two side-notes:
* I still could not push to bzr. So, I saved ubuntu-desktop.tex to
another folder on my computer, deleted my local precice-e2 folder,
pulled the current branch down again, then copied the contents of
my ubuntu-desktop.tex to the one just received, committed the
file, then pushed, and it worked---I think. Thanks to Carsten for
the GUI recommendation...this seems to work a lot better for me as
I did the above commit and push without issues from BZR Explorer.
* I did find in a couple of different resources online stating this
is the last LTS where 2D will be supported. With 12.10, 3D is the
one-and-only Unity shell, so we need to be watching for these
differences in our 12.10 manual.
Thanks.
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Hannie Dumoleyn
<lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lafeber-dumoleyn2@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Jim,
First of all, thank you for what you have done so far in chapter
2. I am responsible for the Nautilus section, so I will answer a
few of your questions.
Nautilus is still very much present in my Precise (Unity 2D)
version. When I open a folder and click info in Menu Help > Info I
see: Nautilus 3.4.2. I also checked (most of) what was written in
the Nautilus section in my Precise version and what is described
in the manual is correct, at least on my PC with Ubuntu 12.04
installed. I have asked two questions on this list where I was not
sure because I have Unity 2D (not 3D).
So, could you please give some examples of commands and features
that have not been described correctly in the manual (12.04)?
When you type Nautilus in the Dash, you see your personal folder
and when you open this, you open Nautilus. Perhaps we could
mention this in the manual.
Greets,
Hannie
Op 28-07-12 20:23, Jim Connett schreef:
Good day!
I took about three hours today and made a first pass through the
Ubuntu Desktop chapter of precise-e2.
*What command do I use to push these changes to the e2 branch
without interfering with the main, 12.10 branch.*
I used Kevin's feedback from Matt Thomas at Canonical as the
"key" for the names of the desktop elements.
Of course...questions have arisen:
1. *"Dash" or "the Dash"? *
2. *"Launcher" or "the Launcher"? *
I also recommend we add "titlebar" to the style guide (similar to
what was done for "toolbar").
Finally, this chapter describes the Nautilus file manager, but
most of the commands and features have changed in 12.04, and what
is contained in this chapter regarding Nautilus is not correct.
When I use Dash to search for 'nautilus', the home folder and
files folder appear (so it seems like the Nautilus engine is
there) and when I click on either icon, I get a dramatically
different interface than was I've seen with Nautilus in previous
Ubuntu releases. So I think that while the functionality is
still there, the UI for what we are calling "Nautilus" has
dramatically changed. Does this make sense? If so, about a 100
lines will need to be rewritten in this chapter...UGH! I can't
get to it until next week (unless someone else wants to take it on!)
*Does the "Nautilus" section need a rewrite? Should we use the
term "Nautilus" at all? Does a rewrite even make sense--can't the
Nautilus section just be deleted?*
Thanks.
--Jim
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