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[Jim Hodapp <jim.hodapp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Daniel,

Great! Let me know if you have any specific questions pertaining to
QtMultimedia or what exists today for the mediaplayer app.

Jim

On 03/07/2013 12:15 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> Then QtMultimedia, it is! I want this app to be native and
> integrated. Not by taking the shortest way there.
> 
> Also I will  have a look at the code for the media player, thanks.
> 
> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web
> Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx http://www.danielholm.se
> 
> 2013-03-07 18:10, Jim Hodapp skrev: Daniel,
> 
> On 03/07/2013 12:02 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> 
>>>> Veritatem, agreed. A standalone client using mpd, with some
>>>> of our own plugins and stuff, would be a good solution.
>>>> 
>>>> Akash, what do you mean by global control? I'm thinking the
>>>> same kind of global media buttons as in the sound indicator,
>>>> is that what you mean?
>>>> 
>>>> Jouni, I'd love to see your designs!
>>>> 
>>>> Michael, thank you for your concerns - I greately appreciate
>>>> them! However this code is not suppose to be the final deal.
>>>> I started of my creating the UI that I imagined in my head,
>>>> for you guys to see, as i wrote earlier. And yes, I did it
>>>> without knowing the backend. But basically I figured that I
>>>> wanted to create code that later on could be used by any
>>>> backend. Basically by adding a button, lets say the play
>>>> button, press it and a command is sent. That command could be
>>>> any command, but in this app it starts a track using mpd, 
>>>> Rhythmbox, or whatever we would like.
> I would just like to add that I highly recommend that if you want
> a specific backend, that you work to integrate it into a
> QtMultimedia plugin. Ubuntu Touch is very much trying to follow the
> structure that Qt5 has setup, and so for your mpd or rhythmbox
> backends, they'll be the most useful if they can simply plugin to
> QtMultimedia [1].
> 
>>>> I haven't put that much time into it and re-writing it is
>>>> part of the process - escpecially since this that I've
>>>> written is more of a demo. Also a way for me to learn how to
>>>> do things.
>>>> 
>>>> About the scaling - I do need help with that and I figured
>>>> this would be just one of all things we would help each other
>>>> with. However, I see this app to be one of the smaller ones
>>>> on the right, and not a full screen app (then running on
>>>> Tablet, of course).
> Take a look at the current media player app for a great example of
> how to write a QML UI that can scale, as well as rotate when a
> user physically rotates their device: lp:mediaplayer-app
> 
>>>> Also, I did reply. Perhaps not with the most clear message,
>>>> but I did reply that I would love for this to be one of the
>>>> default apps in Ubuntu Touch. And with that said, I would
>>>> very much like to work with others. But. I do have a limited
>>>> amount of time to put on this so I wouldn't be a good idea to
>>>> make my the primary developer, so helping you guys is
>>>> probably the best solution.
>>>> 
>>>> I too want this to evolvoe, and I would love for more users
>>>> to contribute, and support each other by feedback and code.
>>>> 
>>>> What do you guys propose? Set up a developer team and let
>>>> people join, and take it from there?
> I'm working to get a mailing list created for all things media and 
> possibly a separate freenode IRC channel as well. We can go from
> there with more specific discussions. I'll post here when these
> things are created and then we can more fully dive in.
> 
>>>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant
>>>> Web Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> http://www.danielholm.se
> Regards,
> 
> Jim
> 
> [1] 
> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtmultimedia/qtmultimedia-module.html
>
> 
>>>> 2013-03-07 14:38, Michael Zanetti skrev:
>>>>> Hey,
>>>>> 
>>>>> great to see you're motivated. However, I'm not sure if
>>>>> the taken approach is really taking us somewhere for
>>>>> different reasons:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You started off with a QML file without thinking on how
>>>>> the actual player should work, which features do you want
>>>>> to support, and how this will be hooked up to a backend.
>>>>> Most likely you end up rewriting the whole code when you
>>>>> realize this doesn't fit with the backend you choose. Also,
>>>>> your code does not scale with different screen sizes or
>>>>> form factors.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When Jim Hodapp and I replied to some of your original
>>>>> music app emails, we never heard back from you. Are you
>>>>> interested in working with the people inside of Canonical
>>>>> on the music app that will ship with Ubuntu Touch by
>>>>> default, or do you rather want to experiment and come up
>>>>> with your own thing? Note that both is fine for us, but if
>>>>> you want to contribute to the default music app, then we've
>>>>> got to work together.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It'd be great if you could let us know how you see this
>>>>> efforts evolving over time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Br, Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thursday 07 March 2013 02:53:21 Daniel Holm wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lovely!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The code is up, and its quite simple - though it doesn't
>>>>>> really do what I want it to yet..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm studying at the University of Gothenburg full time,
>>>>>> and this app is kind of my free time project between
>>>>>> books and papers to hand in, so I haven't had the time to
>>>>>> submit any images - until now:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=71d2604924bdad57493
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=a057005a8133302681
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> The huge icon is just a place holder for a album cover.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel Holm IT
>>>>>> Consultant Web Developer Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx 
>>>>>> http://www.danielholm.se
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2013-03-07 01:43, Akash skrev:
>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would love to start contributing on the music app
>>>>>>> too!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But i'm just wondering, before diving into actually
>>>>>>> coding, don't you want to design the UI and get an idea
>>>>>>> from the community if it follows the guidelines or not?
>>>>>>> Yes we could all download the code and try running it
>>>>>>> ourselves to see the UI but i'm just wondering because
>>>>>>> its going to be easier to put pictures of the app
>>>>>>> design :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Daniel Holm wrote: Hi
>>>>>>> again, I've started on the UI and just done some small
>>>>>>> stuff. I created this in like two hours. I'm still
>>>>>>> figuring out a lot of things since I've never coded an
>>>>>>> app and usually code web. But it's a lot of fun, so
>>>>>>> we'll see where it takes. And perhaps it's better to
>>>>>>> use mpd, which was said earlier. We'll have to code a
>>>>>>> cover downloader, srcobble support and more, though.
>>>>>>> Anyways, here is my repo: 
>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/musicapp Vänlig hälsning / Yours 
>>>>>>> sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web Developer
>>>>>>> Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx http://www.danielholm.se Den
>>>>>>> mån  4 mar 2013 23:39:04 skrev Daniel Holm: Hi again,
>>>>>>> I've started to code on this application now. I don't
>>>>>>> know if I should set up a separate project on
>>>>>>> Launchpad, or what? It's just a little piece of the UI,
>>>>>>> but hey - it's a start ;) I'd like some pointers since
>>>>>>> this is my first application. Vänlig hälsning / Yours
>>>>>>> sincerely, Daniel Holm IT Consultant Web Developer 
>>>>>>> Student d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx http://www.danielholm.se Den
>>>>>>> mån 4 mar 2013 20:13:11 skrev Daniel Holm: Hi again,
>>>>>>> What a response! Wonderful! I was thinking of Rhythmbox
>>>>>>> since its bundled with Ubuntu as default. And you'll
>>>>>>> have the same playlists, settings for eg. Last.fm and
>>>>>>> such things. I'd love to see this becoming the default
>>>>>>> music app in Ubuntu Touch, and I'd gladly share the
>>>>>>> work with anyone wanting to join. I'll try to create a
>>>>>>> UI demo in Qt Creator later this week, so I can show
>>>>>>> you how I imagine it. Also I'd happily join the
>>>>>>> meeting. Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, Daniel
>>>>>>> Holm IT Consultant Web Developer Student
>>>>>>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx http://www.danielholm.se Den mån  4
>>>>>>> mar 2013 19:50:38 skrev Veritatem Ignotam: What about
>>>>>>> using MPD as a backend? May be less resource intensive
>>>>>>> as a backend, shouldn't have a problem compiling as is,
>>>>>>> and possibly simpler to build your interface from
>>>>>>> scratch on top of MPD instead of trying to work with
>>>>>>> rhythmbox's. V.I. On 03/04/2013 10:36 AM, Daniel Holm
>>>>>>> wrote: Hi all, I'm thinking about creating a music 
>>>>>>> application. I'm in an early stage of learning to code
>>>>>>> for QML to begin with, but I have some concerns for the
>>>>>>> future. I'm thinking about creating an application that
>>>>>>> really uses Rhythmbox as an backend, but using $
>>>>>>> rhythmbox-client. Since its Ubuntus default music
>>>>>>> player, I mean. So just a easy UI with buttons for
>>>>>>> previous, next track, play/pause, stop, playlist and so
>>>>>>> on. Press a button and a flag to rhythmbox-client is
>>>>>>> sent. What are you guys' thoughts on this? Is it
>>>>>>> possible to have rhythmbox running in the background
>>>>>>> instead of writing a completely new music player?
>>>> 
> -- Software Engineer Ubuntu | www.ubuntu.com Canonical, Ltd.
>> 
> 
> 

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