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Re: Music app.
Uhm... we should probably standardise a mailing list naming convention
across core-apps, which is why I think this should be discussed as a
different email here on the list.
I suggest starting a bit more abstract then that, based on a few use-cases
and scenarios. This way, by the time you get to designing things, you have
a rough idea of what you should do.
Zisu Andrei
On 8 March 2013 11:57, Daniel Holm <d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> First, I do think we should move the discussion away from here, so I'm off
> to the teams mail list from now on. I just sent out a mail, which I pasted
> below.
>
> Michael, I agree with you that we should probably be talking now first
> hand and writing it down. See the mail below.
>
> Zisu, agreed. Its better if we try to work together instead of having all
> these different projects. At least in the beginning. Although I might say
> that I want a separated music and video player. But remote things sounds
> nice. Using mod this would be easier.
>
> And about Umedia, I'm thinking about reusing, almost porting, the whole
> thing for this project. But this is a discussion for the team.
>
> Mail:
> Hi everyone and welcome,
>
> I think we should start of my deciding what we want this application to
> be. So I propose that everyone, who'd like, write down what features they
> want, and then we discuss these features and if we all agree with therm,
> create a blueprint and a goal.
>
> Features for the first release is primary focus, but features for later
> versions are welcome too, of course.
>
> What I want the player to do:
> * play music tracks of a diverse container from local device.
> * pause track, and use previous and next track.
> * being able to shuffle
> * Scrabble tracks
> * use slider to move quickly in the track
> * download and show album art automatically.
> * use playlists,create and edit them.
> * sort by artist, album and track
> * sound menu for global management.
>
> These are the features I could imagine for later on :
> * support for upnp
> * for ampache
> * groveshark/spotify.
> * YouTube support
> * lyrics
>
> Please share your ideas and create a base of our development.
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel
> Den 8 mar 2013 11:27 skrev "Zisu Andrei" <matzipan@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Guys,
>>
>> I'm really new to QML and am still figuring out a lot of stuff, so my
>>> code is not beautiful..
>>
>> May I say hold your horses until we find a suitable architecture for both
>> the backend and the frontend? Mybalsamiq should probably do it for both,
>> and we can more easily follow discussions for each over there.
>>
>> For the backend side of things, I quite like mpd side of things rather
>> than plugging in to the low-level gstreamer. We should sketch out a
>> structure for it.
>>
>> For the front-end side of things, I think we should probably wait for
>> Canonical to publish their application and see where we can take it from
>> there, but we can definetely brainstrom until then.
>>
>> I see some nice ideas regarding remote control. We should probably think
>> about integrating controlling something with the phone and maybe having the
>> phone plugged into the tv and allowing it to be controller (maybe a
>> bluetooth keyboard).
>>
>> Also, we need to sort out the level of integration between the Music
>> Player and the Video player. I would quite like to see a very integrated
>> manner. Maybe even have them as one: Player (like VLC).
>>
>> Akash, what do you mean by global control? I'm thinking the same kind of
>>> global media buttons as in the sound indicator, is that what you mean?
>>
>> Someone asked a really interesting question regarding global control. The
>> way Ubuntu currently doess it is through DBus, displaying play/pause and
>> next track in the Sound menu. However, it seems like they have become more
>> like settings controls in Ubuntu Phone and I am not entirely sure how they
>> will look in 14.04. Maybe someone in Canonical can enlighten us on this
>> issue? My thought on this is, use the same pattern, as it goes nicely with
>> the other menus, like Messeging and the like.
>>
>>
>>
>> Zisu Andrei
>>
>>
>> On 8 March 2013 08:43, Michael Zanetti <michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Thursday 07 March 2013 21:02:52 Daniel Holm wrote:
>>> > I set up a team on Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~touchmusicapp
>>>
>>> I'm not exactly sure what's the process for setting up such projects, but
>>> seems ok for me. I'll ask Michael Hall if its ok to proceed with this.
>>>
>>> I think there are some interesting ideas in this thread alread and we
>>> should
>>> start writing them down somewhere to decide what we want/need.
>>>
>>> Also this thread is growing quite big and I agree that it would make
>>> sense to
>>> move to a separate mailing list.
>>>
>>> Br,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> > Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>> > Daniel Holm
>>> > IT Consultant
>>> > Web Developer
>>> > Student
>>> > d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx
>>> > http://www.danielholm.se
>>> >
>>> > 2013-03-07 18:41, Diego Sarmentero skrev:
>>> > > On 03/07/2013 02:38 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>>> > >> Hi Diego,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> You are very much welcome to join if you like.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I can see that you got pretty far(!) with your UMedia. It looks
>>> good.
>>> > >> The thing that I'm most concerned about is just moving along
>>> Ubuntu's
>>> > >> UI guidelines. But the rest looks pretty much like the features and
>>> > >> all, that I'd like.
>>> > >
>>> > > Yes, i agree the UI is not the best, i was thinking to redo that part
>>> > > also, i wasn't happy about the UI/UX
>>> > >
>>> > >> Would you like to help out?
>>> > >
>>> > > Of course, where is the team to join?
>>> > >
>>> > >> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Daniel Holm
>>> > >> IT Consultant
>>> > >> Web Developer
>>> > >> Student
>>> > >> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx
>>> > >> http://www.danielholm.se
>>> > >>
>>> > >> 2013-03-07 18:29, Diego Sarmentero skrev:
>>> > >>> On 03/07/2013 02:22 PM, Sid Payton wrote:
>>> > >>>> Hey Michael,
>>> > >>>> Are you working on a Xbmc remote for Ubuntu Touch? That would be
>>> > >>>> great. Do you have a API to control XBMC? If so could you pass me
>>> a
>>> > >>>> copy? Thanks.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Am 07.03.2013 11:28 schrieb "Michael Zanetti"
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> <michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:
>>> michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>> > >>>> Hey Jouni,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Would be great to see those. I will most likely port over
>>> > >>>> PlayMee too and
>>> > >>>> could use some great design. Most likely I can reuse most of
>>> it
>>> > >>>> for Xbmcremote
>>> > >>>> too.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Cheers,
>>> > >>>> Michael
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> On Thursday 07 March 2013 10:12:03 Jouni Helminen wrote:
>>> > >>>> > Hey guys,
>>> > >>>> >
>>> > >>>> > We've done some nice new designs for a core music app at
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Canonical - we
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > could share these soon and see if it makes sense to use
>>> them as a
>>> > >>>> > starting point for the UI?
>>> > >>>> >
>>> > >>>> > Thanks
>>> > >>>> > Jouni Helminen
>>> > >>>> >
>>> > >>>> > Lead Designer
>>> > >>>> > Ubuntu Touch
>>> > >>>> >
>>> > >>>> > On Thu Mar 7 02:32:52 2013, Akash wrote:
>>> > >>>> > > As far as global control of the app goes, i think we could
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> place
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > > something in the sound part of the system services!
>>> > >>>> > >
>>> > >>>> > > On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Veritatem Ignotam wrote:
>>> > >>>> > > I like where it's going. Good work!
>>> > >>>> > >
>>> > >>>> > > If you decide to go the MPD route, there's a small
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> daemon called
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > > mpdscribble which can do the last.fm <http://last.fm>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> <http://last.fm> reporting.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > > V.I.
>>> > >>>> > >
>>> > >>>> > > On 03/06/2013 08:53 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>>> > >>>> > >> Hi,
>>> > >>>> > >>
>>> > >>>> > >> Lovely!
>>> > >>>> > >>
>>> > >>>> > >> The code is up, and its quite simple - though it
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> doesn't really
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >> do what I want it to yet..
>>> > >>>> > >>
>>> > >>>> > >> I'm studying at the University of Gothenburg full
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> time, and this
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >> app is kind of my free time project between books and
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> papers to
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >> hand in, so I haven't had the time to submit any
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> images - until now:
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=71d2604924
>>> > >>>> bd
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >> ad57493165cb4705b554
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=a057005a81
>>> > >>>> 3
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >> 33026810a708842deaed6
>>> > >>>> > >>
>>> > >>>> > >> The huge icon is just a place holder for a album
>>> cover.
>>> > >>>> > >> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>> > >>>> > >>
>>> > >>>> > >> Daniel Holm
>>> > >>>> > >> IT Consultant
>>> > >>>> > >> Web Developer
>>> > >>>> > >> Student
>>> > >>>> > >>
>>> > >>>> > >> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > >>>> > >> http://www.danielholm.se
>>> > >>>> > >>
>>> > >>>> > >> 2013-03-07 01:43, Akash skrev:
>>> > >>>> > >>> Hey,
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> I would love to start contributing on the music app
>>> too!
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> But i'm just wondering, before diving into actually
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> coding,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> don't you want to design the UI and get an idea
>>> from the
>>> > >>>> > >>> community if it follows the guidelines or not? Yes
>>> we
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> could all
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> download the code and try running it ourselves to
>>> see
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> the UI but
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> i'm just wondering because its going to be easier
>>> to put
>>> > >>>> > >>> pictures of the app design :)
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Daniel Holm wrote:
>>> > >>>> > >>> Hi again,
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> I've started on the UI and just done some small
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> stuff. I
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> created this in like two hours. I'm still
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> figuring out a lot
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> of things since I've never coded an app and
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> usually code web.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> But it's a lot of fun, so we'll see where it
>>> takes.
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> And perhaps it's better to use mpd, which was
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> said earlier.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> We'll have to code a cover downloader, srcobble
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> support and
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> more, though.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> Anyways, here is my repo:
>>> > >>>> https://launchpad.net/musicapp
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> Daniel Holm
>>> > >>>> > >>> IT Consultant
>>> > >>>> > >>> Web Developer
>>> > >>>> > >>> Student
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > >>>> > >>> http://www.danielholm.se
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> Den mån 4 mar 2013 23:39:04 skrev Daniel Holm:
>>> > >>>> > >>> Hi again,
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> I've started to code on this application
>>> now.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I don't
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> know if I should
>>> > >>>> > >>> set up a separate project on Launchpad, or
>>> what?
>>> > >>>> > >>> It's just a little piece of the UI, but hey
>>> -
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> it's a
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> start ;)
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> I'd like some pointers since this is my
>>> first
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> application.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> Daniel Holm
>>> > >>>> > >>> IT Consultant
>>> > >>>> > >>> Web Developer
>>> > >>>> > >>> Student
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > >>>> > >>> http://www.danielholm.se
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> Den mån 4 mar 2013 20:13:11 skrev Daniel
>>> Holm:
>>> > >>>> > >>> Hi again,
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> What a response! Wonderful!
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> I was thinking of Rhythmbox since its
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> bundled with
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> Ubuntu as default.
>>> > >>>> > >>> And you'll have the same playlists,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> settings for eg.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> Last.fm and such
>>> > >>>> > >>> things.
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> I'd love to see this becoming the
>>> default
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> music app
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> in Ubuntu Touch,
>>> > >>>> > >>> and I'd gladly share the work with
>>> anyone
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> wanting to
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> join.
>>> > >>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> I'll try to create a UI demo in Qt
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Creator later
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> > >>> this week, so I can
>>> > >>>> > >
>>> > >>>> > > --
>>> > >>>> > > Adrenaline Junkie
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> --
>>> > >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>> > >>>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone>
>>> > >>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > >>>> <mailto:ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone
>>> > >>>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-phone>
>>> > >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Hi, some time ago i started a project intended to do a Music App to
>>> > >>> run on the desktop and the phone:
>>> > >>> https://github.com/saruneko/UMedia
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> You can see some videos of the app working here:
>>> > >>> http://www.saruneko.org/umedia
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I don't know if you were considering something like that, i haven't
>>> > >>> add some code to that lately because i was busy with other stuff,
>>> > >>> but let me know if that could be of any use.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Regards!
>>>
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>>
>>
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