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[Joey Jiao <joey.jiaojg@xxxxxxxxx>]

Why it's just music player. I use mplayer/smplayer on desktop. I believe it
should be better multi player? Meanwhile wish it support FM and plugins for
all possible multimedia.
在 2013-3-8 下午8:02，"Zisu Andrei" <matzipan@xxxxxxxxx>写道：

> Uhm... we should probably standardise a mailing list naming convention
> across core-apps, which is why I think this should be discussed as a
> different email here on the list.
>
> I suggest starting a bit more abstract then that, based on a few use-cases
> and scenarios. This way, by the time you get to designing things, you have
> a rough idea of what you should do.
>
> Zisu Andrei
>
>
> On 8 March 2013 11:57, Daniel Holm <d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> First, I do think we should move the discussion away from here, so I'm
>> off to the teams mail list from now on. I just sent out a mail, which I
>> pasted below.
>>
>> Michael, I agree with you that we should probably be talking now first
>> hand and writing it down. See the mail below.
>>
>> Zisu, agreed. Its better if we try to work together instead of having all
>> these different projects. At least in the beginning. Although I might say
>> that I want a separated music and video player. But remote things sounds
>> nice. Using mod this would be easier.
>>
>> And about Umedia, I'm thinking about reusing, almost porting, the whole
>> thing for this project. But this is a discussion for the team.
>>
>> Mail:
>> Hi everyone and welcome,
>>
>> I think we should start of my deciding what we want this application to
>> be. So I propose that everyone, who'd like, write down what features they
>> want, and then we discuss these features and if we all agree with therm,
>> create a blueprint and a goal.
>>
>> Features for the first release is primary focus, but features for later
>> versions are welcome too, of course.
>>
>> What I want the player to do:
>> * play music tracks of a diverse container from local device.
>> * pause track, and use previous and next track.
>> * being able to shuffle
>> * Scrabble tracks
>> * use slider to move quickly in the track
>> * download and show album art automatically.
>> * use playlists,create and edit them.
>> * sort by artist, album and track
>> * sound menu for global management.
>>
>> These are the features I could imagine for later on :
>> * support for upnp
>> * for ampache
>> * groveshark/spotify.
>> * YouTube support
>> * lyrics
>>
>> Please share your ideas and create a base of our development.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Daniel
>> Den 8 mar 2013 11:27 skrev "Zisu Andrei" <matzipan@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> Guys,
>>>
>>> I'm really new to QML and am still figuring out a lot of stuff, so my
>>>> code is not beautiful..
>>>
>>> May I say hold your horses until we find a suitable architecture for
>>> both the backend and the frontend? Mybalsamiq should probably do it for
>>> both, and we can more easily follow discussions for each over there.
>>>
>>> For the backend side of things, I quite like mpd side of things rather
>>> than plugging in to the low-level gstreamer. We should sketch out a
>>> structure for it.
>>>
>>> For the front-end side of things, I think we should probably wait for
>>> Canonical to publish their application and see where we can take it from
>>> there, but we can definetely brainstrom until then.
>>>
>>> I see some nice ideas regarding remote control. We should probably think
>>> about integrating controlling something with the phone and maybe having the
>>> phone plugged into the tv and allowing it to be controller (maybe a
>>> bluetooth keyboard).
>>>
>>> Also, we need to sort out the level of integration between the Music
>>> Player and the Video player. I would quite like to see a very integrated
>>> manner. Maybe even have them as one: Player (like VLC).
>>>
>>> Akash, what do you mean by global control? I'm thinking the same kind of
>>>> global media buttons as in the sound indicator, is that what you mean?
>>>
>>> Someone asked a really interesting question regarding global control.
>>> The way Ubuntu currently doess it is through DBus, displaying play/pause
>>> and next track in the Sound menu. However, it seems like they have become
>>> more like settings controls in Ubuntu Phone and I am not entirely sure how
>>> they will look in 14.04. Maybe someone in Canonical can enlighten us on
>>> this issue? My thought on this is, use the same pattern, as it goes nicely
>>> with the other menus, like Messeging and the like.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Zisu Andrei
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 March 2013 08:43, Michael Zanetti <michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday 07 March 2013 21:02:52 Daniel Holm wrote:
>>>> > I set up a team on Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~touchmusicapp
>>>>
>>>> I'm not exactly sure what's the process for setting up such projects,
>>>> but
>>>> seems ok for me. I'll ask Michael Hall if its ok to proceed with this.
>>>>
>>>> I think there are some interesting ideas in this thread alread and we
>>>> should
>>>> start writing them down somewhere to decide what we want/need.
>>>>
>>>> Also this thread is growing quite big and I agree that it would make
>>>> sense to
>>>> move to a separate mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> Br,
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>>> >    Daniel Holm
>>>> >    IT Consultant
>>>> >    Web Developer
>>>> >    Student
>>>> >    d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> >    http://www.danielholm.se
>>>> >
>>>> > 2013-03-07 18:41, Diego Sarmentero skrev:
>>>> > > On 03/07/2013 02:38 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>>>> > >> Hi Diego,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> You are very much welcome to join if you like.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> I can see that you got pretty far(!) with your UMedia. It looks
>>>> good.
>>>> > >> The thing that I'm most concerned about is just moving along
>>>> Ubuntu's
>>>> > >> UI guidelines. But the rest looks pretty much like the features and
>>>> > >> all, that I'd like.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Yes, i agree the UI is not the best, i was thinking to redo that
>>>> part
>>>> > > also, i wasn't happy about the UI/UX
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Would you like to help out?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Of course, where is the team to join?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>    Daniel Holm
>>>> > >>    IT Consultant
>>>> > >>    Web Developer
>>>> > >>    Student
>>>> > >>    d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> > >>    http://www.danielholm.se
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> 2013-03-07 18:29, Diego Sarmentero skrev:
>>>> > >>> On 03/07/2013 02:22 PM, Sid Payton wrote:
>>>> > >>>> Hey Michael,
>>>> > >>>> Are you working on a Xbmc remote for Ubuntu Touch? That would be
>>>> > >>>> great. Do you have a API to control XBMC? If so could you pass
>>>> me a
>>>> > >>>> copy? Thanks.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> Am 07.03.2013 11:28 schrieb "Michael Zanetti"
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>> <michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:
>>>> michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>> > >>>>     Hey Jouni,
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     Would be great to see those. I will most likely port over
>>>> > >>>>     PlayMee too and
>>>> > >>>>     could use some great design. Most likely I can reuse most of
>>>> it
>>>> > >>>>     for Xbmcremote
>>>> > >>>>     too.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     Cheers,
>>>> > >>>>     Michael
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     On Thursday 07 March 2013 10:12:03 Jouni Helminen wrote:
>>>> > >>>>     > Hey guys,
>>>> > >>>>     >
>>>> > >>>>     > We've done some nice new designs for a core music app at
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     Canonical - we
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > could share these soon and see if it makes sense to use
>>>> them as a
>>>> > >>>>     > starting point for the UI?
>>>> > >>>>     >
>>>> > >>>>     > Thanks
>>>> > >>>>     > Jouni Helminen
>>>> > >>>>     >
>>>> > >>>>     > Lead Designer
>>>> > >>>>     > Ubuntu Touch
>>>> > >>>>     >
>>>> > >>>>     > On Thu Mar  7 02:32:52 2013, Akash wrote:
>>>> > >>>>     > > As far as global control of the app goes, i think we
>>>> could
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     place
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > > something in the sound part of the system services!
>>>> > >>>>     > >
>>>> > >>>>     > > On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Veritatem Ignotam wrote:
>>>> > >>>>     > >     I like where it's going. Good work!
>>>> > >>>>     > >
>>>> > >>>>     > >     If you decide to go the MPD route, there's a small
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     daemon called
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >     mpdscribble which can do the last.fm <http://last.fm
>>>> >
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     <http://last.fm> reporting.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >     V.I.
>>>> > >>>>     > >
>>>> > >>>>     > >     On 03/06/2013 08:53 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     Hi,
>>>> > >>>>     > >>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     Lovely!
>>>> > >>>>     > >>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     The code is up, and its quite simple - though it
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     doesn't really
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     do what I want it to yet..
>>>> > >>>>     > >>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     I'm studying at the University of Gothenburg full
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     time, and this
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     app is kind of my free time project between books
>>>> and
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     papers to
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     hand in, so I haven't had the time to submit any
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     images - until now:
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=71d2604924
>>>> > >>>>     bd
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     ad57493165cb4705b554
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=a057005a81
>>>> > >>>>     3
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     33026810a708842deaed6
>>>> > >>>>     > >>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     The huge icon is just a place holder for a album
>>>> cover.
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>>> > >>>>     > >>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>       Daniel Holm
>>>> > >>>>     > >>       IT Consultant
>>>> > >>>>     > >>       Web Developer
>>>> > >>>>     > >>       Student
>>>> > >>>>     > >>
>>>> > >>>>     > >> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > >>>>     > >> http://www.danielholm.se
>>>> > >>>>     > >>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>     2013-03-07 01:43, Akash skrev:
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>     Hey,
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>     I would love to start contributing on the music
>>>> app too!
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>     But i'm just wondering, before diving into actually
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     coding,
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>     don't you want to design the UI and get an idea
>>>> from the
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>     community if it follows the guidelines or not? Yes
>>>> we
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     could all
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>     download the code and try running it ourselves to
>>>> see
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     the UI but
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>     i'm just wondering because its going to be easier
>>>> to put
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>     pictures of the app design :)
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>     On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Daniel Holm wrote:
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>         Hi again,
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>         I've started on the UI and just done some small
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     stuff. I
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>         created this in like two hours. I'm still
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     figuring out a lot
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>         of things since I've never coded an app and
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     usually code web.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>         But it's a lot of fun, so we'll see where it
>>>> takes.
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>         And perhaps it's better to use mpd, which was
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     said earlier.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>         We'll have to code a cover downloader, srcobble
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     support and
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>         more, though.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>         Anyways, here is my repo:
>>>> > >>>>     https://launchpad.net/musicapp
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>         Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>          Daniel Holm
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>          IT Consultant
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>          Web Developer
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>          Student
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>> http://www.danielholm.se
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>         Den mån  4 mar 2013 23:39:04 skrev Daniel Holm:
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>             Hi again,
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>             I've started to code on this application
>>>> now.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     I don't
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>             know if I should
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>             set up a separate project on Launchpad, or
>>>> what?
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>             It's just a little piece of the UI, but
>>>> hey -
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     it's a
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>             start ;)
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>             I'd like some pointers since this is my
>>>> first
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     application.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>             Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>              Daniel Holm
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>              IT Consultant
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>              Web Developer
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>              Student
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>> http://www.danielholm.se
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>             Den mån  4 mar 2013 20:13:11 skrev Daniel
>>>> Holm:
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 Hi again,
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 What a response! Wonderful!
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 I was thinking of Rhythmbox since its
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     bundled with
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 Ubuntu as default.
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 And you'll have the same playlists,
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     settings for eg.
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 Last.fm and such
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 things.
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 I'd love to see this becoming the
>>>> default
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     music app
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 in Ubuntu Touch,
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 and I'd gladly share the work with
>>>> anyone
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     wanting to
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 join.
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 I'll try to create a UI demo in Qt
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     Creator later
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     > >>>                 this week, so I can
>>>> > >>>>     > >
>>>> > >>>>     > > --
>>>> > >>>>     > > Adrenaline Junkie
>>>> > >>>>
>>>> > >>>>     --
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>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Hi, some time ago i started a project intended to do a Music App
>>>> to
>>>> > >>> run on the desktop and the phone:
>>>> > >>> https://github.com/saruneko/UMedia
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> You can see some videos of the app working here:
>>>> > >>> http://www.saruneko.org/umedia
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> I don't know if you were considering something like that, i
>>>> haven't
>>>> > >>> add some code to that lately because i was busy with other stuff,
>>>> > >>> but let me know if that could be of any use.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Regards!
>>>>
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