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Re: Music app.

 

On 03/08/2013 08:57 AM, Daniel Holm wrote:

Hi all,

First, I do think we should move the discussion away from here, so I'm off to the teams mail list from now on. I just sent out a mail, which I pasted below.

Michael, I agree with you that we should probably be talking now first hand and writing it down. See the mail below.

Zisu, agreed. Its better if we try to work together instead of having all these different projects. At least in the beginning. Although I might say that I want a separated music and video player. But remote things sounds nice. Using mod this would be easier.

And about Umedia, I'm thinking about reusing, almost porting, the whole thing for this project. But this is a discussion for the team.


Hi, I'm the one who did UMedia, so let me know and maybe i can speed up things if we found another design that fits better for the phone or something, because i already know the qml and c++ code of that project, maybe we can arrange a kind-of-meeting via IRC or hangout or something to talk about this and move forward.

Mail:
Hi everyone and welcome,

I think we should start of my deciding what we want this application to be. So I propose that everyone, who'd like, write down what features they want, and then we discuss these features and if we all agree with therm, create a blueprint and a goal.

Features for the first release is primary focus, but features for later versions are welcome too, of course.

What I want the player to do:
* play music tracks of a diverse container from local device.
* pause track, and use previous and next track.
* being able to shuffle
* Scrabble tracks
* use slider to move quickly in the track
* download and show album art automatically.
* use playlists,create and edit them.
* sort by artist, album and track
* sound menu for global management.

These are the features I could imagine for later on :
* support for upnp
* for ampache
* groveshark/spotify.
* YouTube support
* lyrics

Please share your ideas and create a base of our development.

Cheers,
Daniel

Den 8 mar 2013 11:27 skrev "Zisu Andrei" <matzipan@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:matzipan@xxxxxxxxx>>:

    Guys,

        I'm really new to QML and am still figuring out a lot of
        stuff, so my code is not beautiful..

    May I say hold your horses until we find a suitable architecture
    for both the backend and the frontend? Mybalsamiq should probably
    do it for both, and we can more easily follow discussions for each
    over there.

    For the backend side of things, I quite like mpd side of things
    rather than plugging in to the low-level gstreamer. We should
    sketch out a structure for it.

    For the front-end side of things, I think we should probably wait
    for Canonical to publish their application and see where we can
    take it from there, but we can definetely brainstrom until then.

    I see some nice ideas regarding remote control. We should probably
    think about integrating controlling something with the phone and
    maybe having the phone plugged into the tv and allowing it to be
    controller (maybe a bluetooth keyboard).

    Also, we need to sort out the level of integration between the
    Music Player and the Video player. I would quite like to see a
    very integrated manner. Maybe even have them as one: Player (like
    VLC).

        Akash, what do you mean by global control? I'm thinking the
        same kind of global media buttons as in the sound indicator,
        is that what you mean?

    Someone asked a really interesting question regarding global
    control. The way Ubuntu currently doess it is through DBus,
    displaying play/pause and next track in the Sound menu. However,
    it seems like they have become more like settings controls in
    Ubuntu Phone and I am not entirely sure how they will look in
    14.04. Maybe someone in Canonical can enlighten us on this issue?
    My thought on this is, use the same pattern, as it goes nicely
    with the other menus, like Messeging and the like.


    Zisu Andrei


    On 8 March 2013 08:43, Michael Zanetti
    <michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Hi,

        On Thursday 07 March 2013 21:02:52 Daniel Holm wrote:
        > I set up a team on Launchpad:
        https://launchpad.net/~touchmusicapp
        <https://launchpad.net/%7Etouchmusicapp>

        I'm not exactly sure what's the process for setting up such
        projects, but
        seems ok for me. I'll ask Michael Hall if its ok to proceed
        with this.

        I think there are some interesting ideas in this thread alread
        and we should
        start writing them down somewhere to decide what we want/need.

        Also this thread is growing quite big and I agree that it
        would make sense to
        move to a separate mailing list.

        Br,
        Michael


        > Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
        >    Daniel Holm
        >    IT Consultant
        >    Web Developer
        >    Student
        > d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
        > http://www.danielholm.se
        >
        > 2013-03-07 18:41, Diego Sarmentero skrev:
        > > On 03/07/2013 02:38 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
        > >> Hi Diego,
        > >>
        > >> You are very much welcome to join if you like.
        > >>
        > >> I can see that you got pretty far(!) with your UMedia. It
        looks good.
        > >> The thing that I'm most concerned about is just moving
        along Ubuntu's
        > >> UI guidelines. But the rest looks pretty much like the
        features and
        > >> all, that I'd like.
        > >
        > > Yes, i agree the UI is not the best, i was thinking to
        redo that part
        > > also, i wasn't happy about the UI/UX
        > >
        > >> Would you like to help out?
        > >
        > > Of course, where is the team to join?
        > >
        > >> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
        > >>
        > >>    Daniel Holm
        > >>    IT Consultant
        > >>    Web Developer
        > >>    Student
        > >> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
        > >> http://www.danielholm.se
        > >>
        > >> 2013-03-07 18:29, Diego Sarmentero skrev:
        > >>> On 03/07/2013 02:22 PM, Sid Payton wrote:
        > >>>> Hey Michael,
        > >>>> Are you working on a Xbmc remote for Ubuntu Touch? That
        would be
        > >>>> great. Do you have a API to control XBMC? If so could
        you pass me a
        > >>>> copy? Thanks.
        > >>>>
        > >>>> Am 07.03.2013 11:28 schrieb "Michael Zanetti"
        > >>>>
        > >>>> <michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        <mailto:michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:michael.zanetti@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>:
        > >>>>     Hey Jouni,
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     Would be great to see those. I will most likely
        port over
        > >>>>     PlayMee too and
        > >>>>     could use some great design. Most likely I can
        reuse most of it
        > >>>>     for Xbmcremote
        > >>>>     too.
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     Cheers,
        > >>>>     Michael
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     On Thursday 07 March 2013 10:12:03 Jouni Helminen
        wrote:
        > >>>>     > Hey guys,
        > >>>>     >
        > >>>>     > We've done some nice new designs for a core music
        app at
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     Canonical - we
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > could share these soon and see if it makes sense
        to use them as a
        > >>>>     > starting point for the UI?
        > >>>>     >
        > >>>>     > Thanks
        > >>>>     > Jouni Helminen
        > >>>>     >
        > >>>>     > Lead Designer
        > >>>>     > Ubuntu Touch
        > >>>>     >
        > >>>>     > On Thu Mar  7 02:32:52 2013, Akash wrote:
        > >>>>     > > As far as global control of the app goes, i
        think we could
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     place
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > > something in the sound part of the system services!
        > >>>>     > >
        > >>>>     > > On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Veritatem Ignotam
        wrote:
        > >>>>     > >     I like where it's going. Good work!
        > >>>>     > >
        > >>>>     > >     If you decide to go the MPD route, there's
        a small
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     daemon called
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >     mpdscribble which can do the last.fm
        <http://last.fm> <http://last.fm>
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     <http://last.fm> reporting.
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >     V.I.
        > >>>>     > >
        > >>>>     > >     On 03/06/2013 08:53 PM, Daniel Holm wrote:
        > >>>>     > >>     Hi,
        > >>>>     > >>
        > >>>>     > >>     Lovely!
        > >>>>     > >>
        > >>>>     > >>     The code is up, and its quite simple -
        though it
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     doesn't really
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>     do what I want it to yet..
        > >>>>     > >>
        > >>>>     > >>     I'm studying at the University of
        Gothenburg full
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     time, and this
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>     app is kind of my free time project
        between books and
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     papers to
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>     hand in, so I haven't had the time to
        submit any
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     images - until now:
        > >>>>
        > >>>>
        > >>>>
        http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=71d2604924
        > >>>>     bd
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >> ad57493165cb4705b554
        > >>>>
        > >>>>
        http://owncloud.danielholm.se/public.php?service=files&t=a057005a81
        > >>>>     3
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >> 33026810a708842deaed6
        > >>>>     > >>
        > >>>>     > >>     The huge icon is just a place holder for a
        album cover.
        > >>>>     > >>     Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
        > >>>>     > >>
        > >>>>     > >>       Daniel Holm
        > >>>>     > >>       IT Consultant
        > >>>>     > >>       Web Developer
        > >>>>     > >> Student
        > >>>>     > >>
        > >>>>     > >> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>
        <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>>
        > >>>>     > >> http://www.danielholm.se
        > >>>>     > >>
        > >>>>     > >> 2013-03-07 01:43, Akash skrev:
        > >>>>     > >>>     Hey,
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>     I would love to start contributing on the
        music app too!
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>     But i'm just wondering, before diving
        into actually
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     coding,
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>> don't you want to design the UI and get an
        idea from the
        > >>>>     > >>> community if it follows the guidelines or
        not? Yes we
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     could all
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>> download the code and try running it
        ourselves to see
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     the UI but
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>>     i'm just wondering because its going to
        be easier to put
        > >>>>     > >>> pictures of the app design :)
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>     On Wednesday, March 6, 2013, Daniel Holm
        wrote:
        > >>>>     > >>> Hi again,
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>> I've started on the UI and just done some small
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     stuff. I
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>> created this in like two hours. I'm still
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     figuring out a lot
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>> of things since I've never coded an app and
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     usually code web.
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>> But it's a lot of fun, so we'll see where it
        takes.
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>> And perhaps it's better to use mpd, which was
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     said earlier.
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>> We'll have to code a cover downloader, srcobble
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     support and
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>> more, though.
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>> Anyways, here is my repo:
        > >>>> https://launchpad.net/musicapp
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>> Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>  Daniel Holm
        > >>>>     > >>>  IT Consultant
        > >>>>     > >>>  Web Developer
        > >>>>     > >>>  Student
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>>
        > >>>>     > >>> http://www.danielholm.se
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>> Den mån  4 mar 2013 23:39:04 skrev Daniel Holm:
        > >>>>     > >>>   Hi again,
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>   I've started to code on this application now.
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     I don't
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>>   know if I should
        > >>>>     > >>>   set up a separate project on Launchpad, or
        what?
        > >>>>     > >>>   It's just a little piece of the UI, but hey -
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     it's a
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>>   start ;)
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>   I'd like some pointers since this is my first
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     application.
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>>   Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely,
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>    Daniel Holm
        > >>>>     > >>>    IT Consultant
        > >>>>     > >>>    Web Developer
        > >>>>     > >>>    Student
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>> d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx
        <mailto:d.holmen@xxxxxxxxx>>
        > >>>>     > >>> http://www.danielholm.se
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>   Den mån  4 mar 2013 20:13:11 skrev Daniel Holm:
        > >>>>     > >>>       Hi again,
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>       What a response! Wonderful!
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>       I was thinking of Rhythmbox since its
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     bundled with
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>>       Ubuntu as default.
        > >>>>     > >>>       And you'll have the same playlists,
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     settings for eg.
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>>       Last.fm and such
        > >>>>     > >>>       things.
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>       I'd love to see this becoming the default
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     music app
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>>       in Ubuntu Touch,
        > >>>>     > >>>       and I'd gladly share the work with anyone
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     wanting to
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>>       join.
        > >>>>     > >>>
        > >>>>     > >>>       I'll try to create a UI demo in Qt
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     Creator later
        > >>>>
        > >>>>     > >>>       this week, so I can
        > >>>>     > >
        > >>>>     > > --
        > >>>>     > > Adrenaline Junkie
        > >>>>
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        > >>>
        > >>> Hi, some time ago i started a project intended to do a
        Music App to
        > >>> run on the desktop and the phone:
        > >>> https://github.com/saruneko/UMedia
        > >>>
        > >>> You can see some videos of the app working here:
        > >>> http://www.saruneko.org/umedia
        > >>>
        > >>> I don't know if you were considering something like
        that, i haven't
        > >>> add some code to that lately because i was busy with
        other stuff,
        > >>> but let me know if that could be of any use.
        > >>>
        > >>> Regards!

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