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[ɈɐȿϞƐęţ ṧḯṋפԋ Ҝалɗɧɑɤɨ <jskandhari@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Benjamiin
Some worth noting points put forward you. But like Zisu said slight modifications to touch app. For example I don't have faebook app installed on my HTC Rooted Explorer ( for it hogs on internal memory and leaves no space for other apps ) and web ui mobile interface is same at that of app... 
Friends ( I like the name and thanks for enlightening me.. Yes , every second person will ask for the social apps, for more than the interface the app asures them they get the gossip notifications as soon as it happens.
Can't it be like the HTC ( not exactly just the logic model ) Sense has its own application which handles the notifications & contact sync , merger and other details. While the FB app in HTC is simply their for anyone who wants to open it ( but by default fb account sync is ignored for contacts - of official app. ) or the timescape of Sony. So let the basic FB application remain in the Phone, while the Ubuntu Touch Team native dev app Friends be their giving vent to a whole new experience of Socia-Linking.

Jskandhari

Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 03:50:34 +0200
From: matzipan@xxxxxxxxx
To: bkerensa@xxxxxxxxxx
CC: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; shanekpiper@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Addressing the lack of Trademark License for YouTube, Twitter and Facebook Core Apps

But Facebook and Twitter and YouTube make their own apps they don't sell those rights and they don't allow others to use their brand name... I think on one hand your wrong though... They made apps for Firefox OS.... So why not Ubuntu Touch?

I think an app for firefox os means merely adding some extra support to their touch application?
Zisu Andrei



On 19 March 2013 03:47, Benjamin Kerensa <bkerensa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Mar 18, 2013 6:44 PM, "Robert Bruce Park" <robert.park@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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> On 13-03-18 06:16 PM, ɈɐȿϞƐęţ ṧḯṋפԋ Ҝалɗɧɑɤɨ wrote:

> > I would like to put across a different view point, show the masses

> > something which is even better than the default app, and they will

> > migrate before you know it.

>

> Unfortunately, you're wrong.

>

> > If they need facebook app , let facebook work on it...

>

> We absolutely can not wait around for Facebook to develop an app for

> our platform. Think about it from their point of view. Why would they

> spend any resources at all trying to support a platform that has

> literally zero percent market share? To them, it's a lot of effort for

> nothing. And if we release a phone that can not access facebook, then

> our phone is utterly irrelevant in the modern world of social networking.

>

> The indisputable fact of the matter is that we *have* to have Facebook

> (and Twitter, etc) apps on launch day, and nobody is going to make

> them for us but us.
But Facebook and Twitter and YouTube make their own apps they don't sell those rights and they don't allow others to use their brand name... I think on one hand your wrong though... They made apps for Firefox OS.... So why not Ubuntu Touch?



>

> (Thus far we've been very fortunate that the "us" I reference above

> has been "us, the Ubuntu community" and not just "us, Canonical",

> although we are eager to see increased community contributions)

>

> It seems like a good deal for Facebook. "Hey, we want to write your

> official app for you, and we want to pay you to do it." Obviously

> they'd have to exert a little bit of quality control in order to

> ensure that we are representing their brand properly, but it's much

> better than asking them to write the app themselves.

>

> > For all Ubuntu Desktop Users everyone seems to be comfortable with

> > Gwibber ( I am not promoting Gwibber nor restricting the scope to

> > Gwibber also ) but only suggesting why not enhance, reduce time

> > complexity of app and fine tune it and enhance the UI of what is

> > already present. Inturn who knows destop version might also get a

> > overhaul.

>

> Yes, that is the current plan. Gwibber has been rewritten from the

> ground up, features have been added, functionality has been

> modularized. Currently, the Facebook and Twitter apps are thin

> wrappers around the new gwibber code (which we are calling Friends, btw).

>

> So we have one core backend that is responsible for sending and

> receiving messages from basically any social network, and then there

> are some different GUI apps that provide frontends to this: Facebook

> app shows only Facebook messages, Twitter app shows only Twitter

> messages, and Gwibber app shows all messages.

>

> This does not change the fact that users are going to be expecting to

> find "the Facebook app" and "the Twitter app", and they will end up

> being disappointed and angry if those features are only available

> under an unfamiliar name (because they won't know the unfamiliar name,

> so they'll just assume the features are missing).

>

> People have been shouting this at us for *decades*. "Linux has no

> apps!" "Well, we do, kinda, but they have different names!" That is

> just not going to fly on launch day, I'm afraid.

>

> If we can't learn from our past, then we've already failed. And the

> lesson is "have brand-name apps."

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