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[Lars Knudsen <larsgk@xxxxxxxxx>]

WebKit (and now Blink) cover >85% of the mobile browser use - while Firefox
seems to be slightly lower (0.01% .. maybe not 100% accurate - but pretty
far from WebKit in usage %'age)

1. Any mobile WebApps developer today will target iOS and Android first.
 Having a technology that is sharing the code base (qtwebkit) gives a good
starting point to make sure webapps are also compatible with Ubuntu Phone
2. Firefox with their upcoming "FirefoxOS" seem to be pushing a LOT of
specs - and not all of them make sense .. but they have to be ready for
launch (it seems) so there is not much time to "waste" taking a holistic
look at the specs to see if they all make sense.  You can be sure that both
WebKit/Apple and Blink/Google will *not* blindly implement these things if
they don't make 100% sense to them.

I also like Firefox - and it's nice with competition .. but it would not
make much sense to select FF as the primary web platform on an OS that
*also* has to prove itself with the operators and phone manufacturers
before any kind of market penetration can happen.  Selecting WebKit (and
potentially Blink later - depends on how that develops) as the base of the
core web engine (browser and webview for dedicated apps) over FF can't have
been a hard choice to make for Ubuntu ;)

br
Lars

For reference:

Mobile/Tablet Browser Market Share (source: http://www.netmarketshare.com/)
May, 2013
Browser Total Market Share
Safari 59.98%
Android Browser 20.73%
Opera Mini 10.53%
Chrome 3.22%
Microsoft Internet Explorer 1.97%
BlackBerry 1.02%
Proprietary or Undetectable 0.52%
Symbian 0.50%
Opera Mobile 0.40%
Opera 0.14%
ACCESS NetFront 0.06%
Mozilla 0.01%
Firefox 0.01%
Obigo 0.01%
Microsoft Pocket Internet Explorer 0.00%


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Luke Bryan <luke32j@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> In my opinion webkit would be a fairly buggy base for a JS+QML interface.
> Even the jQuery folks have said there are more workarounds in their code
> for odd webkit behavior than other browsers. Mozilla technology is already
> making great leaps in the os integration area (Boot2gecko, asm.js which
> optimizes js up to around half the speed of native), which would be very
> beneficial in a web/javascript app-centered OS.
>
> I do hope Ubuntu phone will be able to run Firefox, or at least the
> Android version of Firefox?
>
> Best wishes
> Luke
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:06:27 -0500
>
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] browser does not support webgl
> From: coder543@xxxxxxxxx
> To: luke32j@xxxxxxx
> CC: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> WebKit is rapidly becoming the standard for the internet, and I'm not sure
> what quirks you're talking about. However, if they're developing their own
> browser, then by definition it cannot be Firefox. If someone develops an
> alternative browser, nothing will stop you from using it.
>
> Right now, no one offers Firefox for mobile through the Ubuntu UI, so
> making it even optional would prove to be extremely difficult.
>
> Sincerely,
> Josh
>  Please don't tell me default web browser is webkit?
> Won't Firefox be default, or at least have an option to install Firefox on
> the Ubuntu-phone, like the desktop Ubuntu? I've had enough experiences
> trying to track down weird webkit quirks that I would prefer not to use it
> exclusively on a phone.
>
> Best regards,
> Luke
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:25:59 -0400
> From: pat.mcgowan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] browser does not support webgl
>
> On 06/20/2013 05:07 PM, Zisu Andrei wrote:
>
> I'm not sure webkit linux supports webgl.
>
>  Zisu Andrei
>
> This report seems pertinent, will look into it further.
> Pat
> https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-30405
>
>
>
> On 20 June 2013 20:39, Wim de Vries <wsvries@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Just tested the Web browser on WebGL ... no support.
> Is there a reason for this?
> I would say a basic feature for mobiles.
>
> Thanks.
>
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