No, that is not the problem. Sending a message with a different e-mail
address will have your message land in the moderator queue, and you
will get an e-mail saying so. If it goes through and ends up in the
spam folders of people subscribed to the list, then the only relation
to e-mail address used, may be that certain e-mail providers often
have
more spam sent through them, and thus, your e-mail address may be
identified as spam.
Beyond that, sometimes the e-mail message simply reads as if it could
be spam, as not everyone is a native English speaker, and sometimes
certain combinations of words and various typos, will simply be caught
by spam filters.
I have definitely seen mails from others on this list end up in the
spam folder in gmail. But my local spamassassin config is a bit
smarter, and it doesn't tend to send them to spam, when I go pull them
out of gmail's spam folder.
On Fri, 2016-03-18 at 18:25 +0100, Peter Bittner wrote:
Have them check whether they use the same, identical email address
for
posting messages that they have subscribed with.
I'm 99% sure this is the problem.
It's like faxes. Why the hack do people lift the receiver and then
hang up when they hear the fax signal? Probably because the system
is
not intelligent enough to not let them lift the receiver when a fax
is
coming in. (That would be the actual solution. And the phone
shouldn't
even ring.)
I think when you are a software developer or a manager you should be
able to understand the underlying problem. But of course,
subscription
to mailing list is an old-fashioned thing that just works. Just that
it was not designed to times when everyone has 3 or more different
email addresses. Welcome to 2016!
Difficult to fix. At least difficult to quick-fix.
Peter
2016-03-18 17:42 GMT+01:00 Randall Ross <randall@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> I'm wondering how widespread this issue is... I've had two
friends
> this
> week tell me that although they can receive ubuntu-phone messages,
> they
> cannot post. Is this a case of over-aggressive spam filters, or
> perhaps a
> moderation queue issue?
>
> Can the list admin investigate?
>
> Cheers,
> Randall.
>
> On 03/18/2016 09:18 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm only forwarding ;)
>
> "
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Marcin Hofmann <gtriderxc@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2016-03-17 18:01 GMT+01:00
> Subject: Mailing list bug
> To: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> I do not know if You noticed that lots of messages from this
> mailing list
> land in a spam folder of our e-mail boxes? The way we communicate
> does NOT
> work! How are we expected to create a better world when the
> communication
> chain is broken? A few days ago I sent a message with a problem
> that nobody
> answered. As I found out later someone found my message by mistake
> in spam.
> Wouldn't it be a better to make a forum with a clear topic list so
> no of our
> messages are gone and so that we can easily find some old
> information, sent
> months ago that we now badly need? If I were I manager in a
company
> like
> Canonical I'd ban using mailing list. The spam filters nowadays
are
> to
> strong and block important information.
>
> Cheers
>
> GTriderXC
> "
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof Tataradziński
> https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156
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