ubuntu-phone team mailing list archive

[Rodney Dawes <rodney.dawes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

No, that is not the problem. Sending a message with a different e-mail
address will have your message land in the moderator queue, and you
will get an e-mail saying so. If it goes through and ends up in the
spam folders of people subscribed to the list, then the only relation
to e-mail address used, may be that certain e-mail providers often have
more spam sent through them, and thus, your e-mail address may be
identified as spam.

Beyond that, sometimes the e-mail message simply reads as if it could
be spam, as not everyone is a native English speaker, and sometimes
certain combinations of words and various typos, will simply be caught
by spam filters.

I have definitely seen mails from others on this list end up in the
spam folder in gmail. But my local spamassassin config is a bit
smarter, and it doesn't tend to send them to spam, when I go pull them
out of gmail's spam folder.



On Fri, 2016-03-18 at 18:25 +0100, Peter Bittner wrote:
> Have them check whether they use the same, identical email address
> for
> posting messages that they have subscribed with.
> 
> I'm 99% sure this is the problem.
> 
> It's like faxes. Why the hack do people lift the receiver and then
> hang up when they hear the fax signal? Probably because the system is
> not intelligent enough to not let them lift the receiver when a fax
> is
> coming in. (That would be the actual solution. And the phone
> shouldn't
> even ring.)
> 
> I think when you are a software developer or a manager you should be
> able to understand the underlying problem. But of course,
> subscription
> to mailing list is an old-fashioned thing that just works. Just that
> it was not designed to times when everyone has 3 or more different
> email addresses. Welcome to 2016!
> 
> Difficult to fix. At least difficult to quick-fix.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 2016-03-18 17:42 GMT+01:00 Randall Ross  <randall@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> > 
> > I'm wondering how widespread this issue is...  I've had two friends
> > this
> > week tell me that although they can receive ubuntu-phone messages,
> > they
> > cannot post. Is this a case of over-aggressive spam filters, or
> > perhaps a
> > moderation queue issue?
> > 
> > Can the list admin investigate?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Randall.
> > 
> > On 03/18/2016 09:18 AM, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > I'm only forwarding ;)
> > 
> > "
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Marcin Hofmann <gtriderxc@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: 2016-03-17 18:01 GMT+01:00
> > Subject: Mailing list bug
> > To: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > 
> > I do not know if You noticed that lots of messages from this
> > mailing list
> > land in a spam folder of our e-mail boxes? The way we communicate
> > does NOT
> > work! How are we expected to create a better world when the
> > communication
> > chain is broken? A few days ago I sent a message with a problem
> > that nobody
> > answered. As I found out later someone found my message by mistake
> > in spam.
> > Wouldn't it be a better to make a forum with a clear topic list so
> > no of our
> > messages are gone and so that we can easily find some old
> > information, sent
> > months ago that we now badly need? If I were I manager in a company
> > like
> > Canonical I'd ban using mailing list. The spam filters nowadays are
> > to
> > strong and block important information.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > GTriderXC
> > "
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Krzysztof Tataradziński
> > https://launchpad.net/~ktatar156

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