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[Victor Gabillon <victorgabillon@xxxxxxxxx>]

Michael, Thank you so much for the GPS tip! :))

On 29 September 2016 at 03:00, Wilfridd <widec1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Marcin,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
> Same to me : I didn't find any offense in Marco's email neither. I'm sorry
> if my wording would have let think the contrary (I'm not an english native
> speaker)
> I cleary agree with you and Marco statement. Once again, in an dev
> plateform perspective, that's a risk that must assumed by those who use
> their UT phone daily.
>
> Also sorry about your BT problems on BQ E4.5, my experience and  comments
> were related to the MX4 only. I do understand that such a situation is
> (more than) annoying.
> I don't have any doubt your message will be heard by Canonical soon or
> later...the sooner the bettet ;-) anyway lets hope so!
>
> Cheers
>
> Wilfrid
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:19:13 CEST, Marcin Xc <
> gtriderxc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Dear Willfried,
>> I didn't find Marco's e-mail offensive. It is a criticism that should be
>> made visible: it's not the very first time that an update make things worse
>> than they were. I think some people could learn from that message that
>> there is a problem with testing OTA images before release. If something
>> make things worse for some model, there should be no update for that model.
>> Just as "Apple and Google" do. There is one more difference: both companies
>> do not release a product that isn't finished and care about great problems
>> in the first line (bluetooth of my Nexus 5 connected always with all
>> devices after newest update).
>>
>> In my opinion the Ubuntu's biggest problem at the moment is bluetooth.
>> Let's say it clear: it does NOT work properly for some lucky guys, for the
>> unlucky rest as me it doesn't work at all (since Ubuntu 12.04; 11.10 was
>> the last release that connected with my Nokia properly).
>> And the worst of all is that this function is a very basic one.
>> You wrote about "forgetting paired devices" after which BT started to
>> work. Well... I can not even forget them on my E4.5. Even after rm command
>> in a terminal and ten reboots it does not work. Sorry. And it is not only
>> my problem:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1435040
>>
>> 63 people with heat 582. If I were Canonical I wouldn't make a single
>> step forward before Bluetooth doesn't work properly cause it is a very root
>> of the whole idea of convergence.
>> I can live with no sms sound(yes even that :-)), and all the rest of
>> bugs. This phone look for me as a terminal. I could make a call from a
>> command line :-) but bluetooth must work nowadays.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Marcin
>>       From: Wilfridd <widec1@xxxxxxxxx>
>>  To: ubuntu-phone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  Sent: Wednesday, September 28,
>> 2016 4:16 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OTA-13 and Meizu MX4, a lot of bugs that
>> make this phone unusable
>>
>>    Hi
>>
>> I m not used to reply to such kind of email, but I'd like to share what's
>> in my mind... If you don't care (and you've got the right), then drop this
>> email...
>> I use my UT phone daily and I m happy with it.
>> As far as I know UT remains a dev plateform that is constantly beeing
>> improved, most of the time [1], by remarkable people from UT Community.  I
>> m not an Ubuntu nor Canonical fan to say that, but just a guy thankfull
>> having the chance to take part in this experience and communicate directly
>> with developpers that are committed in! Try to do the same with apple or
>> google...and see wether you get any answer.
>> Just complaining isn't usefull, but filing bug is better
>> This mailing list is the right place to ask where to file the bug in
>> launchpad.
>>
>> That being said, from my own experience:
>> - bluetooth: I've fixed most of the pairing issues by cleaning all the BT
>> devices formerly paired (I mean clicking "Forget this device" first
>>
>> - Dekko separated smtp imap profile: Fixed by cleaning all accounts and
>> restart from the beginning. Renaming and backuping dekko conf file may help:
>> cp ~/.config/dekko.dekkoproject/dekko.dekkoproject.conf
>> Documents/dekko.dekkoproject.conf
>>
>> - the MX4 circle button, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/can
>> onical-devices-system-image/+bug/1627924
>>
>> Nevertheless, I also agree with the other issues, but we need to be
>> patient... And try also to reboot your phone, if not already done.
>> Really hope it'll help you.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Wilfrid
>>
>>
>> [1]  not exclusively related to opensource but also with closesource /
>> proprietary software...
>>
>> On Wednesday, 28 September 2016 12:02:09 CEST, M G <
>> graziottimarco@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I received last Ubuntu Touch upgrade some days ago, now reached OTA-13,
>>> but
>>> I never had before all these problems.
>>> With respect for all the people that had worked on this update, on MX4 is
>>> the worst update that I ever received before. I'm using MX4 from june
>>> 2015,
>>> from the european launch.
>>>
>>> In this version:
>>>
>>> - gps stopped to work and with him all the scopes that using gps;
>>> - hotspot icon stopped to work;
>>> - dekko notification doesn't work, and still remain the issue with
>>> separated profile SMTP and IMAP;
>>> - telegram notification become slower and sometimes doesn't work;
>>> - calendar alarm doesn't work and you can't posticipate the alarm;
>>> - bluetooth never pair with car hands free system starting from OTA-9
>>> (take
>>> a look here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu
>>> ntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1539158 );
>>> - the button at the bottom of the screen remain active after screen look.
>>>
>>> Also, it's necessary to update the android firmware, because Meizu have
>>> released new firmware based on Android 5 some time ago:
>>> http://www.flymeos.com/firmwarelist?modelId=5&type=1
>>>
>>> Also, MX4 users needs the possibility to use the convergence mode. This
>>> is
>>> a top smartphone with a powerfull hardware, like Meizu pro5, but it's not
>>> possible to use the display sharing function.
>>>
>>> This email it's not an attack at the people that every day work on
>>> Ubuntu,
>>> but just a point of situation, that right now make this smartphone
>>> unusable.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Marco
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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