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[ajmctaggart <ajmctaggart@xxxxxxxxx>]

...This was hilarious, sexy librarians and all...
Me personally, I don't have a *huge *issue presenting updates at the
beginning of a log-in sequence.  As a user, you know they are there, and you
either ignore or proceed.

I can't help but think though, that when I login to my desktop normally, the
Update Manager usually shows up within 2-5 minutes with updates, and when it
does- I cringe at the thought of having to reboot.

Now, would those updates have made me cringe less if I haven't already
opened Firefox, Evolution, and a track to listen to? Probably...

But, it still is something different than other OS' default behavior (Not a
bad thing, most updates systems already stink).  I guess I relate it most to
the example of an avid user of Firefox plugins.  I hate when I open my
browser and those updates are there, I usually ignore them because I want
into my Gmail, or whatever the case may be.

It is a different way to look at updates, however, and not a bad idea at
that...

-Anthony

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Alex Launi <alex.launi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:06 PM, tacone <tacone@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Good intent, bad idea.
>>
>
> I disagree, let's imagine this scenario, together...
> <blur and wiggle dream sequence style scene change>
>
> It's Tuesday morning, you get up and turn on your computer. Whilst you were
> fast asleep dreaming of sugar plums and sexy librarians Ubuntu packagers
> were hard at work packaging updates for your favourite operating system. Now
> that it's morning, these updates are available, for you! You boot up and
> arrive at the slick new GDM. But what's this message?
>
> "New updates available! Click here to install"
>
> Some days you're very busy, and need your computer right away so you chose
> to ignore them and log right in. That's ok, they'll be available when you're
> ready. Update Manager shouldn't go away, you should be able to launch it
> yourself manually if you want to update once you've logged in and found out
> that DST was this weekend and you've got some extra time.
>
> But today you decide to click. The interface changes nicely into a screen
> displaying what updates are available, and asking for your username and
> password to authorize install / log in. If you're not an administrator we
> will politely tell you that you can't perform an upgrade, and that you
> should let your administrator know that your system needs some updates. At
> this point we just finish the login, since you just gave us your info.
> Awesome.
>
> Now let's say you are an admin, this update requires no reboot so we log
> you right in, and when the desktop is loaded there is already a dialog
> waiting giving you the progress of your update. You may continue working,
> you weren't cost much time, and your system is fully secure because you're
> up to date.
>
> But next time there might be a kernel upgrade, which will require a
> restart. In this case we should ask the user what they'd like to do. In some
> cases the estimated time to finish (which we will show) may only be 2
> minutes, and we can afford that so we just halt the login and modally
> install the upgrades, or we allow them to say "ok i recognize that this
> update will need a restart to apply, but I need my computer- so lets
> continue like there are no updates that require a reboot, and I will reboot
> when I'm ready.
>
> <blur and wiggle dream sequence end style change>
>
> Awesome, right?
>
> --
> --Alex Launi
>
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