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[Niklas Rosenqvist <niklas.s.rosenqvist@xxxxxxxxx>]

That is true of course ;) I too enjoy working with Photoshop/GIMP to
visualize ideas, it's great fun. I will probably make a complete Unity
sketch when I know what I want from Unity 2.0 :)

2011/5/24 Henrik Peytz <henrik.peytz@xxxxxxxxx>

> For the sake of integration, would be my answer.
> Singular ideas on how to change the interface or accomplish stuff might
> suck when viewed in isolation, yet turn out to be brilliant ideas when put
> together with others and viewed as a whole. This was one of my gripes with
> Brainstorm, it catered only to singular ideas (change a menu, replace this
> program with that program etc.), it didn't really cater to a holistic view.
> I know a lot of the mockups are regurgitated stuff that has been through
> mill once, however it's still nice to see it in context of the whole desktop
> (in case of cutouts) and in concert (in case of separate ideas brought
> together). And...it's not like it's boring to do them in the first place ;)
>
>
> 2011/5/24 Niklas Rosenqvist <niklas.s.rosenqvist@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>> I'm sorry for not seeing the reason behind these mockups, all of these
>> ideas are exactly the same as have been stated in other ayatana threads, the
>> only difference is the position of the menu toggle button which was
>> discussed in the "Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)" thread.
>>
>> 2011/5/24 Henrik Peytz <henrik.peytz@xxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/5/24 GonzO Rodrigue <worlord668@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Henrik Peytz <henrik.peytz@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As for "always-visible-vs-menu-toggler", well, I just happen to like
>>>>> getting rid of menus that go unused; consider it an extra feature, you
>>>>> wouldn't have to use it, just keep the menus enabled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I argue the logic here should be reversed.
>>>>
>>>> To the new-ish and/or first time and/or inexperienced user, having to
>>>> discover menus is a terrible, terrible idea.
>>>>
>>>> If you want them hidden just because you like them hidden aesthetically,
>>>> then you should enable the "hide menus behind a button" option, but it
>>>> certainly should not be the default.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm sorry I didn't flesh this one out more. What you're saying is what I
>>> had in mind, I don't intend to have the menus hidden by default, simply
>>> having an option that allows the user to hide them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you place the menus next to the title, then you run the risk of not
>>>>> being able to drag a window
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought we already covered this: all or part of the title would remain
>>>> on the bar, and serve as a drag-handle.
>>>>
>>>> Or, the Opera/Firefox idea (application title serves as menus).
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is an interesting idea, and I, as a poweruser would probably welcome
>>> it as I could easily get used to it, but it's a major break (not from
>>> Windows, not from OSX, but the WIMP-convention itself) from what new users
>>> would expect. Also, if you can only move the window with a drag-handle on,
>>> say, the  utmost left part of the title-bar, then you've cut yourself off
>>> from putting the window anywhere before 0 on the x-axis of your monitor. It
>>> doesn't really matter where you put the drag-handle, you'd always be limited
>>> to only moving the window to a place where the drag-handle is visible, which
>>> is one of the reasons we use the whole length of the titlebar to move stuff
>>> across platforms.
>>>
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