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[Jo-Erlend Schinstad <joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 23. feb. 2012 16:19, Adrian Maier wrote:
> I obviously had no idea about the possibility to start this 
> gnome-panel inside Unity . Thanks for the tip ! 

You're welcome. Use AskUbuntu. Nobody knows everything, but someone 
knows everything there is to know.

> > You mean such as unselecting the online scope in the applications lens?
> I mean : hiding the "apps available for download"

Yes, that's what I mean as well. Look at Sources at the bottom of the 
filters in the applications lens. Choose "Local" and you'll only show 
the installed applications, and not the ones from Ubuntu Software 
Center. Again; instead of complaining that something is not possible, 
please use AskUbuntu and ask _if_ it is possible.

> > Again; it is not called gnome2. It is called Gnome Panel. It has always been
> > available, has never been removed and if you prefer it, you should use it.
> > This is not the idea of Unity. If you prefer to use Gnome Panel, then just
> > use it. It will never make sense to try and push the old work flow onto a
> > different product. You should either adapt to the Unity workflow, or keep
> > using Gnome Panel or some other "classic" environment.
> I am quite certain that last summer  (when I have tried Unity in
> 11.04)    i did not come across the possibiity to do that .

If you had asked a question on AskUbuntu, I would've told you how to do 
it. It's quite simply a matter of running Gnome Panel on login, like any 
other application.

> I had the feeling that Ubuntu 11.04  was released with gnome2  .
> There are even various howtos about "how to install gnome 3 in ubuntu
> 11.04" .

That is at least mostly true. But the point was that when people are 
referring to Gnome 2, they're usually referring to the classic desktop 
and not the Gnome 2 infrastructure, such as GConf, GTK2, etc. The 
classic desktop is just as available in Gnome 3 as it is in Gnome 2, so 
calling it the "Gnome 2 desktop" makes no sense.

> If it is a well-known fact that the Gnome panel is usable easily in
> Unity ,  how is it possible that nobody did hit me with that
> information  immediately after i've begun to talk about how much i'm
> missing the classic apps menu ?

Because this is the Unity Design list. I assumed that you wanted to 
change Unity to work the same way, but that's not what Unity is designed 
for.

> I had to irritate you a bit before you whispered the suggestion to
> start the gnome-panel  .

No, you didn't have to do that. You could've asked on AskUbuntu, and I 
would've told you. Actually, I already provided a really extensive 
answer to that question, but you never looked for it. It provides 
detailed instructions on how to add an LxPanel, Xfce4-panel or Gnome 
Panel to your Unity desktop: http://askubuntu.com/a/77236/19779

But this list is about design, not support.

> I've just tried it and it indeed works :  now i have "Applications"
> and "Places"  in the top left corner of the screen .   This is perfect
> :  I would probably set to autohide the bottom bar ,  because all that
> i wished was to have the old apps menu "somewhere"  on the screen .

Right. Just remember to press Alt while right-clicking the panels in 
order to customize them. Except for that, applets are grouped to left, 
center or right. Otherwise, the classic desktop is identical in Precise 
as in 10.04.

> Many Thanks !
> Adrian

You're welcome. In the future, whenever you feel annoyed that something 
is missing, use AskUbuntu.com. It might not be missing at all.


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Jo-Erlend Schinstad