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Re: Some impressions about the current status of Unity


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 17:43, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
<joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 23. feb. 2012 16:19, Adrian Maier wrote:
>> I obviously had no idea about the possibility to start this gnome-panel
>> inside Unity . Thanks for the tip !
> You're welcome. Use AskUbuntu. Nobody knows everything, but someone knows
> everything there is to know.
>>> You mean such as unselecting the online scope in the applications lens?
>> I mean : hiding the "apps available for download"
> Yes, that's what I mean as well. Look at Sources at the bottom of the
> filters in the applications lens. Choose "Local" and you'll only show the
> installed applications, and not the ones from Ubuntu Software Center. Again;
> instead of complaining that something is not possible, please use AskUbuntu
> and ask _if_ it is possible.

Hm , that's a well hidden option .   What I tried to do was to
right-click on "apps available for download"  and hoping to see
"properties" or  "hide" .

>>> Again; it is not called gnome2. It is called Gnome Panel. It has always
>>> been
>>> available, has never been removed and if you prefer it, you should use
>>> it.
>>> This is not the idea of Unity. If you prefer to use Gnome Panel, then
>>> just
>>> use it. It will never make sense to try and push the old work flow onto a
>>> different product. You should either adapt to the Unity workflow, or keep
>>> using Gnome Panel or some other "classic" environment.
>> I am quite certain that last summer  (when I have tried Unity in
>> 11.04)    i did not come across the possibiity to do that .
> If you had asked a question on AskUbuntu, I would've told you how to do it.
> It's quite simply a matter of running Gnome Panel on login, like any other
> application.
>> I had the feeling that Ubuntu 11.04  was released with gnome2  .
>> There are even various howtos about "how to install gnome 3 in ubuntu
>> 11.04" .
> That is at least mostly true. But the point was that when people are
> referring to Gnome 2, they're usually referring to the classic desktop and
> not the Gnome 2 infrastructure, such as GConf, GTK2, etc. The classic
> desktop is just as available in Gnome 3 as it is in Gnome 2, so calling it
> the "Gnome 2 desktop" makes no sense.
>> If it is a well-known fact that the Gnome panel is usable easily in
>> Unity ,  how is it possible that nobody did hit me with that
>> information  immediately after i've begun to talk about how much i'm
>> missing the classic apps menu ?
> Because this is the Unity Design list. I assumed that you wanted to change
> Unity to work the same way, but that's not what Unity is designed for.
>> I had to irritate you a bit before you whispered the suggestion to
>> start the gnome-panel  .
> No, you didn't have to do that. You could've asked on AskUbuntu, and I
> would've told you. Actually, I already provided a really extensive answer to
> that question, but you never looked for it. It provides detailed
> instructions on how to add an LxPanel, Xfce4-panel or Gnome Panel to your
> Unity desktop: http://askubuntu.com/a/77236/19779

Well , when i look for support i normally google or ask on the forum.
 The askubuntu site is not a place that i was aware of.

> But this list is about design, not support.

I don't think that I have been totally off-topic .

There are some improvement ideas floating around that could probably
result into a better navigation for applications .  If all of those 5
feature summarized by Omar  had been implemented  , probably I
wouldn't have bothered to complain at all .

>> I've just tried it and it indeed works :  now i have "Applications"
>> and "Places"  in the top left corner of the screen .   This is perfect
>> :  I would probably set to autohide the bottom bar ,  because all that
>> i wished was to have the old apps menu "somewhere"  on the screen .
> Right. Just remember to press Alt while right-clicking the panels in order
> to customize them. Except for that, applets are grouped to left, center or
> right. Otherwise, the classic desktop is identical in Precise as in 10.04.
>> Many Thanks !
>> Adrian
> You're welcome. In the future, whenever you feel annoyed that something is
> missing, use AskUbuntu.com. It might not be missing at all.

Adrian M

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