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[Adrian Maier <syraxes@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 15:48, Jo-Erlend Schinstad
<joerlend.schinstad@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 25. feb. 2012 13:40, Adrian Maier wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 00:04, Michael Hall<mhall119@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>>
>>> The Dash is more like a search engine than a directory listing.  Think of
>>> it
>>> like Google.  You don't go to Google for a list of websites by category.
>>
>> In Windows7  (or possibly Vista)   they've added search in the Start
>> menu  .  It's very handy . But they didn't remove the possibility to
>> navigate the apps folders.
>
> There is a possibility to browse by categories. I know that you know this.
> Perhaps you should explain why Windows' way of doing it is better?

Because they've found a way to add an improvement (search applications
by name)  without removing the traditional folder-based navigation of
"All Programs" .


>>> What you want is a way to browse installed applications, not find
>>> specific
>>> applications.  This isn't what the Dash is designed for.
>>
>> This doesn't change the fact that Unity is currently missing a
>> "component for browsing the applications ".
>
> It isn't missing. It works a little bit different than what you're used to,
> but it does exist.

Michael Hall was saying that the Dash is designed for searching , not
for browsing the applications.   This explains why it's not the
feature that i was looking for.

But you are the one who told me that in order to get a classic-looking
apps menu  it's possible to load the gnome panel   !

Therefore  :   in Unity itself there is no component designed/intended
to act as a category-based browser .



>> The first step would be to see that the need for such a feature is at
>> least acknowledged.

> Then you have to be more convincing. So far, you've claimed that it is
> required, but I don't think you've explained why.  To me, it sounds as if you
> want to change the behavior because you're not used to it.

Please enlighten me :  from your point of view the feature is already
there ,  or you want me to demonstrate why should it be introduced ?


> But that's not
> something good design should be based on. Of course, it will always be
> possible to add something like that if you want it, but that doesn't mean it
> should be default for all users.

The feature needs to exist before discussing whether it should be the
default  or not .

But anyway I am not asking any changes of the defaults.


Especially now after trying the
https://launchpad.net/classicmenu-indicator .  It provides me what I
was missing , and it's not even necessary to use the gnome panel.
Hopefully this package will be available in the real repositories
someday    (now it's in ppa).



-- 
Adrian