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Re: Wintermute and the Web

 

On 12 September 2011 02:17, SII <dante.ashton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I thought D-Bus was only good for outright notification and limited
> control?


D-Bus is good not only for control and notification but also transmitting
data. Its key advantages are good encapsulation and speed (it uses binary
protocol).


> If everything works as planned, significant modification will have to be
> done...not only making controls of the application usable to Wintermute, but
> also removing the little things that don't really work very well within a
> natural language enviroment, like titlebars and buttons...
>

One thing bothers me here: how much should we limit these "old" methods of
window management? Imagine that somebody frequently changes application
windows (e.g. Chromium and Kopete), I think it is not convenient to say (or
write) command every time when you want to change window.
And I think that people are rather used to mouse-centred solutions than
keyboard ones (of course keyboard is also able to carry such tasks).

And one note about that is we will probably have to change behaviour of WM
(e.g. KWin). Because tweaking WM can be expansive we will probably have to
stick with one. Maybe we could use a tiling window manager (no decorations,
automatic management) but then we focus on keyboard and as I said people are
used to mouse.


>
>
> -Dante
>
>
> On 11 September 2011 00:28, Jacky Alcine <jacky.alcine@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Sweet, Phill. Having an introspection is always good. We would be trying
>> to have a plugin that communicated to Wintermute and Chrome by means of
>> D-Bus. D-bus is Wintermutes needle into the veins of the system...
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 9, 2011, Phill Whiteside <phillw@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > ** CORRECTION** for UBUNTU, not just Lubuntu :)
>> >
>> > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Phill Whiteside <phillw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Of course, I *could* always ask Fabien for his views? Oh... Fabien...
>> He's the guy who deals with the Chromium bugs via Lubuntu & gets releases
>> out in a couple of hours. He's one of the Chromium Developers and comes
>> across as a really nice guy. Nothing ventured, nothing gained :)
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Phill.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:35 AM, SII <dante.ashton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> We'd still have to do some major mods to get Winty to fit it into it's
>> own DE. (yes, working on the design, give me a couple more days)
>> >>> -Dante
>> >>>
>> >>> On 6 September 2011 20:18, Jacky Alcine <jacky.alcine@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Wouldn't have to totally modify Chromium, we'd have to take advantage
>> of NPAPI (ie: search up Chromify-OSD in the Chrome Store). We could bind it
>> to interpret whatever it can from Flash objects (some objects could be
>> linked to RDF data, but I haven't seen it done).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:34 AM, SII <dante.ashton@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> OK, all of you know we're working on a 'closed' environment to make
>> things simpler for Wintermute; This means control of functions/applications
>> as well as versions.
>> >>>>> The trouble is, how do we deal with the web?
>> >>>>> I'm not a web dev; so I'm not sure about a lot of things when it
>> comes to web-browsing for a machine. For instance, Flash objects will be
>> opaque to Wintermute; it only makes sense to humans. Same with video
>> regardless of format.
>> >>>>> Perhaps a modified version of Chromium?
>> >>>>> Thoughts/problems/etc?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Jacky Alcine
>> >>>> Blog <http://jackyalcine.co.cc/> | Launchpad <
>> https://launchpad.net/~jackyalcine>
>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>>
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