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[Paul Gouin <paul.gouin50@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Mariano and JaKub for your answers.
I ended just using the "Verbatim" option, which does prevent unwanted
linking.
Best,
Paul

2015-01-29 16:07 GMT+01:00 Mariano Draghi <mdraghi@xxxxxxxxx>:

> Paul,
>
> Have you tried to apply the "verbatim" or literal format to the block of
> text?
>
> Whenever you need to paste text that shouldn't be parsed by Zim,
> select the text block and press Ctrl-T (or from the menú, Format ->
> Verbatim).
>
> More info here:  http://zim-wiki.org/manual/Help/Wiki_Syntax.html
> (look for the Markup section, and then the notes about the verbatim or
> literal text blocks).
>
> Hope that helps!
>
>
> --
> Mariano
>
>
> 2015-01-29 8:50 GMT-03:00 Paul Gouin <paul.gouin50@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > Thanks to all who responded.
> >
> > Turns out my description of the issue was inaccurate: it is not tags that
> > Zim creates automatically but links to new pages.
> >
> > Below is an example of the kind of text I routinely paste into Zim.
> (These
> > are phonemic transcriptions of recordings made for the purpose of
> creating
> > text-to-speech synthetic voices; the 1st phrase transcribes "and
> guarantees
> > of due processes" ; the @ signs designates the so-called "schwa" or
> > undifferentiated vowel)
> >
> > If you're patient enough to try and paste this text for yourselves, maybe
> > you'll notice some kind of pattern that escapes me. Links are created on
> > most lines but not all; links may extend across whole lines or not.
> >
> > Disabling the option to "Automatically turn file paths into links" does
> not
> > alter Zim's behavior in this respect.
> >
> > --------
> > Sample text:
> >
> > phn/phrase01418.phn:#_|_-@_n_
> > d_|_g_~a_.r_@_n_.t_*ii_z_|_*uh_v_|_d_*uu_|_p_r_*o_.s_e_s_#
> >
> phn/phrase01427.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_dh_*a_t_s_|_w_*ai_|_*ai_|_p_*u_sh_t_|_h_*i_m_|_*oo_f_|_dh_-@
> _|_r_*uu_f_#
> > phn/phrase01479.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_*o_n_|_*uh_.dh_@@_|_f_*i_z_.k_@
> _l_|_p_*a_.r_@_.d_ai_s_.@_z_#
> >
> phn/phrase01543.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_d_*i_s_.k_au_n_t_|_s_t_*oo_r_z_|_*oo_.f_n=_|_s_*e_l_|_dh_*e_m_|_f_-@
> _r_|_m_*uh_ch_|_l_*e_s_#
> > phn/phrase01554.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_dh_-@
> _|_s_t_*ah_n_d_.oo_f_|_b_i_.g_*a_n_#
> >
> phn/phrase01594.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_*e_.n_ii_|_w_*uh_n_|_*uh_v_|_dh_*e_m_|_k_*u_d^_|_h_*ou_l_d_|_n_aa_.k_*o_.d^_i_k_s_#
> >
> phn/phrase01648.phn:#_|_-@_n_d^_|_*i_f_|_w_*ii_|_k_*u_d_|_g_*e_t_|_*au_r_|_sh_*i_p_|_*au_t_#
> >
> phn/phrase01748.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_s_t_*ei_|_dh_*e_r_|_uh_n_.t_*i_l_|_*ai_|_k_*uh_m_#
> > phn/phrase01777.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_dh_*ii_|_~oo_r_.g_@_.n_@
> _z_.*ei_.sh_n=_z_|_s_*e_.k_r_@_t_.~e_.r_ii_|_jh_*e_n_.r_@_l_#
> >
> phn/phrase01782.phn:#_|_-@_n_d^_|_-@_n_|_*i_ng_.k_r_ii_s_|_*i_n_|_i_.l_~e_k_.t_r_*i_.s_i_.d^_ii_|_t_*a_.r_@
> _f_s_#
> > phn/phrase01801.phn:#_|_-@_n_d_|_dh_*e_r_|_r_~ii_.d^_i_.p_l_*oi_.m_@
> _n_t_|_t_-@_|_b_*ei_s_.@_z_|_s_*au_th_|_*uh_v_|_s_*ou_l_#
> >
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:45 AM,  <hansbkk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > Yes Twitter will come and go (good riddance) but I hope Zim will be
> >> > around
> >> > for generations.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Marco Cevoli <marco.cevoli@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I see. It makes lot of sense.
> >> >>
> >> >> Marco Cevoli
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Jaap Karssenberg
> >> >> <jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> > Main logic is that "#" is also used for anchors in HTML links. So
> >> >> > reserved
> >> >> > "#" for links and decided on "@" since this is used for tags in
> >> >> > applications
> >> >> > predating twitter.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jaap
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Marco Cevoli
> >> >> > <marco.cevoli@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I know this has been discussed before, but why don't we follow
> >> >> >> twitter's standard? All words with @ are for people/users and #
> for
> >> >> >> actual tags. I don't know if this unnecessary complicates things,
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> it might be useful to many users. The developer(s) can only change
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> actual @ with # , and this "user/contact management" (using @) can
> >> >> >> be
> >> >> >> created as an external plugin, ie, not forcing everyone to use it,
> >> >> >> since Zim is designed as a personal organizer.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Just brainstorming.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Marco Cevoli
> >> >> >> Technical translator. Graphic designer. Joiner-of-dots.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Jaap Karssenberg
> >> >> >> <jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> >> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Güven, Ugur Murat
> >> >> >> > <murat.gueven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >Colin:[… ]Ugur Murat wants it and has done coding in related
> >> >> >> >> > areas
> >> >> >> >> > so
> >> >> >> >> > I've been hoping they might do it someday. […]
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I was thinking of having the @ sign for general tags, and the #
> >> >> >> >> sign
> >> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> people tags, as I’m using tags heavily, also
> >> >> >> >> for tasks to assign to people.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> What I could imagine is to have the tags symbol to be a setting
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> preferences, but changing the tag symbol is not that
> >> >> >> >> easy, as far as I can see.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > This is a bad idea design wise. The wiki syntax parsing should
> not
> >> >> >> > depend on
> >> >> >> > preferences. Data format should be stable.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >Paul:Each time I paste into Zim a string containing @, it
> >> >> >> >> > handles
> >> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> > string as a tag.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Currently I can see only a workaround, replacing the @ sign by
> >> >> >> >> anything
> >> >> >> >> else, when you copy paste your text.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Replacing is indeed a work around. Real solution would be to
> >> >> >> > handle
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > copy-paste such that you get the wanted result. E.g. use the
> "@",
> >> >> >> > but
> >> >> >> > escape
> >> >> >> > it such that it is not formatted as tag, or a
> "paste-as-verbatim"
> >> >> >> > function.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > But first need to understand the way Paul is using these strings
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > judge
> >> >> >> > best direction.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Jaap
> >> >> >> >
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