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[Güven, Ugur Murat <murat.gueven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

@Davi
>Then I would hide the index and just use a flat notebook structure
This is the idea of tagging notes to find the info you need ;)
> A more prominent search box with find-as-you-type and partial results in a popover
Not that sophisticated, but that’s why I build the ‘Search tagged pages’ plugin

@S.Mubashir
>Mr. Ugur Murat's method is a little laborious, needs foresight and such disciplined notebook looks super-human to me.
Thanks, but I’m not super-human ☺

It is indeed a matter of how to find your information. These two are the extremes:  You create your notes in a flat structure or you go with a total hierarchy


·         The flat structure doesn’t work at all without tagging. But here you are structuring again with your tags ;)

·         The total hierarchy only doesn’t work in my eyes, too as you will find yourself adding another parent and another parent as your information does not fit into existing.

So my way is to mix both. Have a hierarchy and use tags. If an information does not fit to my structure and I don’t see it being a general topic with more information to come, then this
information ends up into the inbox with some tags I find useful (just to find that information again ;) )

Regards,
Murat




From: Zim-wiki [mailto:zim-wiki-bounces+murat.gueven=ts.fujitsu.com@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Davi da Silva Böger
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 3:34 PM
To: zim-wiki@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Zim-wiki] Re-ordering the index / custom sorting

Hi people,


Personally, I would prefer instead that more emphasis would be given to search instead of an index structure, as it is with Web Wikis. A more prominent search box with find-as-you-type and partial results in a popover :). Then I would hide the index and just use a flat notebook structure. I tend to prefer linking and tags instead of hierarchies to set relationships among pages. Well, just my almost off-topic two cents, based on my personal experience.

To the problem at hand tho: I think it would be a good compromise between customization and simplicity to allow drag'n'drop (with some keyboard equivalent) for reordering, but give context-menu actions to sort by some criteria (e.g. alphabetically, by creation date, etc.). Those actions are instant, though: they simply pass through the selected pages sorting everything. This way you avoid maintaining different "modes", while keeping it relatively easy for people to go either sorted or custom.


Best regards,
Davi.


Em quarta-feira, 18 de fevereiro de 2015, S. Mubashir <sajid.mubashir@xxxxxxxxx<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sajid.mubashir@xxxxxxxxx');>> escreveu:
Dear Zim-Gurus,

May I suggest a simple alternative, that doesn't involve embedding some special logic or identifier or ID etc?

 *   Let the current alphabetical sorting remain.
 *   For anyone who wants to re-order, as per their preference, a key-binding can be given.  For example, in MS-Word, the key-sequence [Shift+Alt+Up] or [Shift+Alt+Down} can rearrange paragraphs.  The OpenOffice/ LibreOffice Key-Binding is different and probably [Ctrl+Alt+Up/ Down]; I am not sure of the latter because I always change it to [Ctrl+Up or Ctrl+Down] on all PC/ laptop I use.

I depend on this key-binding for its simplicity, power & convenience.  Mr. Ugur Murat's method is a little laborious, needs foresight and such disciplined notebook looks super-human to me.

My special (earnest) request is that the key-binding (for page-promotion/ demotion) should also be applicable to paragraphs (promotion/ demotion) within the page, and if you do that, Zim will become an exceptional text-editor.  For regular use one won't need the Word Processor, until printing the page becomes important.
Best regards,
S.Mubashir