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[Jason McLafferty <jason.mclafferty@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Jaap,

OK, I think probably what I will try next is uninstall and reinstall.

I really do appreciate all the help that you and Mariano provided in trying
to figure this out.

Jason

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:05 AM, Jaap Karssenberg <
jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Jason,
>
> Yes, zim understands this type of file path regardless of the platform.
>
> In the mean time I tested on my own windows system. Interwiki link to
> another notebook works fine here without the url.list setup.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jaap
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Jason McLafferty <
> jason.mclafferty@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jaap,
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions.  Along these lines, I removed my own
>> urls.list to prevent Zim from using that.  I also opened the notebooks.list
>> file I found in C:\Users\Jason\.config\zim and found lines that look like:
>>
>> ~/Notebooks/Master
>>
>> (I was of the impression that Windows does not understand the tilde as
>> the home directory but I may be wrong on this, or maybe the way that this
>> file is used by Zim allows the tilde to work in this way?).
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Jaap Karssenberg <
>> jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jason,
>>>
>>> I think the only way to debug why it doesn't work on your windows
>>> install is check exactly which file zim gets the URL from. Maybe some older
>>> urls.list you tried, or from the notebooks.list file in the config. If the
>>> path is wrong, I guess one of these contains the wrong URL.
>>>
>>> Will test my own windows setup on monday to check whether there is a bug
>>> or not.
>>>
>>> REgards,
>>>
>>> Jaap
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Jason McLafferty <
>>> jason.mclafferty@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quick note: I also run Linux in VirtualBox, so I put Zim on there and
>>>> tried linking, and it worked.  I just created two notebooks (notes and
>>>> test), in notes I placed a link "test?" and clicking on that worked
>>>> perfectly - a new window opened with the test notebook.
>>>>
>>>> I do use Windows much more though so that's why I want to get this
>>>> working in that installation too.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Jason McLafferty <
>>>> jason.mclafferty@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jaap,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for your followup.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what I tried next:
>>>>> (1) remove urls.list file that I created
>>>>> (2) replaced all spaces by underscores in notebook names in the file
>>>>> notebooks.list in C:\Users\Jason\.config\zim\ directory
>>>>> (3) tried my link Electronics? - nothing happened, so I ran it from
>>>>> cmd with the --debug flag.  Two things I noticed:
>>>>>
>>>>> (a) Error dialog: "Could not find notebook
>>>>> file:///C:/Users/Jason/Notebooks/Master/zim
>>>>> (Master is the name of the notebook that I try to place the link in).
>>>>>
>>>>> (b) I opened the zim.exe.log file and see this line near the bottom:
>>>>>
>>>>> INFO: Spawning: ['C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Zim Desktop Wiki\\zim.exe',
>>>>> 'zim', 'zim+file:///C:/Users/Jason/Notebooks/Electronics?', '--no-daemon']
>>>>> (cwd: None)
>>>>>
>>>>> (I'm guessing this is a copy of the command that is issued to open the
>>>>> notebook being linked to).
>>>>>
>>>>> Two things I find strange: (a) the /zim appended to the end of the
>>>>> file of the notebook I am working in,
>>>>> (b) that the error reports that the file of the notebook I am working
>>>>> in (where I put the link) is not being found, rather than the notebook I am
>>>>> trying to link to is not being found.  I would have guessed that it would
>>>>> report that it cannot find the notebook that I am trying to link to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for so many e-mails.  I'm starting to wonder if I am doing
>>>>> something really stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jason
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Jaap Karssenberg <
>>>>> jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just had a look at the parsing of the url.list format. The parser
>>>>>> splits the line at the first space, all subsequent text is taken as the url.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the name or "key" that you use in the interwiki link should not
>>>>>> contain any spaces. Typically these are abreviations, so you want to keep
>>>>>> them short anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The URL is allowed to contain spaces and is handed to the application
>>>>>> handling the link without further processing. For file links I recommend
>>>>>> using spaces instead of "%20" because most applications (including zim)
>>>>>> just remove the "file:///" bit and assume the rest to be a valid file path.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "Master NOtebook" example in your last mail probably fails due to
>>>>>> the "%20".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "Electronics" example you used earlier should work though. Try
>>>>>> the "--debug" check on that one. However I wouldn't count on zim being
>>>>>> fully robust for "nested" notebooks. It might just open the toplevel
>>>>>> notebook instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jaap
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Jason McLafferty <
>>>>>> jason.mclafferty@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jaap,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your reply.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, my entire 'urls.list' file is links to other notebooks, so it
>>>>>>> seems the right way to do this then is to not worry about creating my own
>>>>>>> urls.list for notebooks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, the link is still not working and Mariano's comment about
>>>>>>> the spaces in a lot of my notebook names has me wondering if this is
>>>>>>> creating a problem?  Also, my Electronics notebook, which I am trying to
>>>>>>> link to (and does not have spaces in the file URL) does appear below a
>>>>>>> notebook which does have spaces in its name and file URL - could it be what
>>>>>>> he said regarding an earlier failure in reading the list, due to spaces,
>>>>>>> that leads to the failure?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did try the suggestion of running "zim --debug".  When the
>>>>>>> notebook open dialog appears, I chose the notebook that I am trying to
>>>>>>> create the link in.  Then I put the link, click on it, and I get an error
>>>>>>> message: "Could not find the notebook:
>>>>>>> file:///C:/Users/Jason/Notebooks/Master%20Notebook/zim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That notebook (Master Notebook) is where I am trying to place the
>>>>>>> link, not the notebook I am linking to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Jaap Karssenberg <
>>>>>>> jaap.karssenberg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stupid question, but are all your interwiki links to other zim
>>>>>>>> notebooks?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If so, you shoudl not need to configure the urls.list file at all.
>>>>>>>> Check the "open another notebook" dialog in zim, all notebooks listed there
>>>>>>>> should already be recognized as interwiki links.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the properties dialog you can set an interwiki keyword for the
>>>>>>>> noteobook as well. This is used to set a short name to refer to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is that what you are looking for?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Otherwise, try running "zim --debug". When you click the link,
>>>>>>>> debug info should show which urls.list file zim is reading and how it
>>>>>>>> converted the link.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jaap
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Mariano Draghi <mdraghi@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I suppose the space might be a problem in the first example. The
>>>>>>>>> space encoded as "%20" in the URL part might be supported (I really don't
>>>>>>>>> know for sure), but I'm sure that you cannot define an interwiki prefix
>>>>>>>>> with spaces in between. At least not in Zim. Zim expects the format of the
>>>>>>>>> urls.list file to be "prefix url" (i.e., prefix, blank, url), so if your
>>>>>>>>> prefix has a blank in between, you're not using the expected syntax. You
>>>>>>>>> should change the first part to "CurveFitting" or "Curve_Fitting" or
>>>>>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Electronics example looks more or less right, except for the
>>>>>>>>> extra forward-slash and the ":" in between. But if you have already tried
>>>>>>>>> the syntax I used, and it still didn't work, then I am really out of ideas
>>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> At first I thought that the "Electronics?" link would be invalid
>>>>>>>>> (I never used such syntax), but I've just tested it in my computer (using
>>>>>>>>> "work?"), and it opens my Work notebook as you would expect. And the other
>>>>>>>>> example ("Electronics?Multimeter") looks perfectly normal.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe the Electronics interwiki-prefix is not working because Zim
>>>>>>>>> didn't like the space in the other prefix and aborted the parsing of the
>>>>>>>>> urls.list file (or disabled the feature completely) before reading the
>>>>>>>>> Electronics line. I'm just guessing... but it might be a good idea to get
>>>>>>>>> the format right with a simpler urls.list file, with just one example
>>>>>>>>> (maybe the Electronics one), so you are sure that any line with wrong or
>>>>>>>>> unexpected syntax is preventing the whole feature from working. Once you
>>>>>>>>> have one case working, you might try adding the other ones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One last thing: make sure you're completely closing Zim before
>>>>>>>>> changing the urls.list file, and that it is not running in the background
>>>>>>>>> or systray. I'm not sure if Zim would detect any changes to that kind of
>>>>>>>>> configuration once it's running.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I don't know what else to suggest. Maybe some other user
>>>>>>>>> catches something we're missing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> El vie., 23 de oct. de 2015 a la(s) 11:35 a. m., Jason McLafferty <
>>>>>>>>> jason.mclafferty@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mariano,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you again for your quick reply!  I really appreciate your
>>>>>>>>>> detailed example.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My urls.list is at the same location as yours (different username
>>>>>>>>>> of course) following your advice in your first response.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I used a program to generate my urls.list file (my boss wrote it)
>>>>>>>>>> that takes a .txt file of the contents of the Notebooks directory, and
>>>>>>>>>> creates the urls.list file.  Here is one example from my urls.list:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Curve Fitting zim+file:///c:/Users/Jason/Notebooks/Curve%20Fitting
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (I added percent encoding for the spaces in the file URL because
>>>>>>>>>> it looks like Windows needs this, from what I have read).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To test notebook linking, I used a different notebook which has
>>>>>>>>>> no space to be sure that wasn't the issue:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Electronics zim+file:///c:/Users/Jason/Notebook/Electronics
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I tried two styles of links,
>>>>>>>>>> (1) Electronics? (which I assumed would open the entire notebook)
>>>>>>>>>> (2) Electronics?Multimeter (which I assumed would open the
>>>>>>>>>> Multimeter page in the Electronics notebook).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In both cases, clicking the link produces no action.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The only thing standing out to me right now is that my file URLs
>>>>>>>>>> look a bit different than yours (I have three slashes after "file" and a
>>>>>>>>>> ":" after c, whereas you have two slashes after "file" and no ":" after C),
>>>>>>>>>> but I tried changing the format of mine to look like yours, but that did
>>>>>>>>>> not affect the result.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you will see something I missed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Mariano Draghi <
>>>>>>>>>> mdraghi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe there's a problem with the URL you are writing in the
>>>>>>>>>>> urls.list file and/or the way you are using the interwiki link?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Let's see a concrete example:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - my username in Windows is "mariano", so the %APPDATA% folder
>>>>>>>>>>> resolves to:
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Users\mariano\AppData\Roaming
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - in there I have a urls.list file, in the following location:
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Users\mariano\AppData\Roaming\zim\data\zim\urls.list
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - I have two Zim Notebooks, "Personal" and "Work", in the
>>>>>>>>>>> following locations (these are the folders where each "notebook.zim" file
>>>>>>>>>>> is located):
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Users\mariano\Dropbox\Notebooks\Personal
>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Users\mariano\Dropbox\Notebooks\Work
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - In the urls.list file, I declared an "interwiki" prefix for
>>>>>>>>>>> the Work notebook, with the following line:
>>>>>>>>>>> work zim+file://C/Users/mariano/Dropbox/Notebooks/Work
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - With that configuration, then if I open my Personal notebook
>>>>>>>>>>> and insert a link like this:
>>>>>>>>>>> work?Home:Projects
>>>>>>>>>>> Then when I clic it a new instance of Zim is opened, with the
>>>>>>>>>>> Work notebook, and the page Home->Projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you doing more or less something like this?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> El vie., 23 de oct. de 2015 a la(s) 10:44 a. m., Jason
>>>>>>>>>>> McLafferty <jason.mclafferty@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mariano,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I greatly appreciate your quick reply, however I am sad to
>>>>>>>>>>>> report that my links still do not work.  Any other suggestions I might
>>>>>>>>>>>> try?  Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Mariano Draghi <
>>>>>>>>>>>> mdraghi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jason,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The location of the XDG folders in Windows is a little bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weird... you should put your urls.list in the folder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> %APPDATA%/zim/data/zim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.e., there should be an extra "zim" folder inside "data".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weird, yes. But it works :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mariano
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> El vie., 23 de oct. de 2015 a la(s) 5:43 a. m., Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>> McLafferty <jason.mclafferty@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am using Zim on Windows 7.  I am trying to add my Zim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notebooks to the urls.list file using the "zim+file://" method described
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://zim-wiki.org/manual/Help/Config_Files.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use ctrl+L to add a link to a notebook as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name_of_notebook?, which creates a link, but when I click on it, nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I noticed when I was working through setting this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up, is that on my system, the directories APPDATA/zim/config and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APPDATA/zim/data do not exist (I checked where APPDATA is on my computer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with cmd by typing cd %appdata% and noting the new directory).  Not being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure if this is significant or not, I did some poking around in Explorer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and found the following directory: C:\Users\Jason\.config\zim in which I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find files like preferences.conf and style.conf.  I tried putting my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> urls.list file, containing all my notebooks and formatted as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name-space-zim+file:// in both of these directories (APPDATA/zim/data and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C:\Users\Jason\.config\zim), but still I do not get a working link.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any suggestions to where I am going wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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