Re: [Ayatana] "Hybrid" (panel/launcher) top left corner button

[Eylem Koca <eylemkoca@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ian,
Do you think my proposal in the previous message could address those issues?
I think it would but I'm no expert...

Eylem


On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ian Santopietro <isantop@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Because the window controls should have gone in the corner, and the
> Usability testing did show that people were clicking on the top icon in the
> launcher to try and open the dash.
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:34, Eylem Koca <eylemkoca@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> OK, sorry, I got it wrong it seems. But then, why oh why did the
>> Ubuntu button have to leave the top left corner? If it did not look
>> like a button, then make it like a button, not displace it. The OP
>> includes a very good mockup for example:
>> http://sites.google.com/site/gandreoliva/hybridbutton
>>
>> I really really think that moving the Ubuntu button out of the
>> very-top-left-corner is a huge mistake.
>>
>> If you really have to place the window control buttons to the
>> very-top-left-corner, then I have a proposal. This just popped into my
>> mind, and goes like this:
>>
>> - Make the Launcher cover the whole left edge, going over the top
>> panel at the top left corner. The Ubuntu button (whatever the design)
>> is at the top of the Launcher.
>> - When the cursor is not directed to the top panel, the Launcher shows
>> or hides according to normal behavior (dodge, autohide, etc).
>> - If the Launcher is showing, the window controls on the left of the
>> top panel are hidden, the active-app name (and title?) is displayed on
>> the top panel (starting from where the window controls would end) and
>> the appmenu is hidden.
>> --- While the Launcher is showing, IF THE CURSOR HITS THE TOP PANEL
>> BEFORE IT HITS THE LAUNCHER, then the Launcher hides, the window
>> controls and the appmenu is displayed on the top panel and the user
>> can interact.
>> --- While the Launcher is showing, the user can activate Dash by
>> either clicking on the Ubuntu button or by pushing the cursor to top
>> left corner (second part should be a user configurable option).
>> - If the Launcher is somehow hidden, and the cursor is NOT on the top
>> panel, the window controls are replaced by an Ubuntu logo (monochrome
>> ala 11.04), followed (towards right) by the active-app name (and
>> title?). Note: this Ubuntu logo is not clickable.
>> --- While the Launcher is hidden, IF THE CURSOR FIRST HITS THE TOP
>> PANEL BEFORE IT HITS THE LEFT EDGE, then the window controls and the
>> appmenu is displayed on the top panel and the user can interact.
>> --- While the Launcher is hidden, IF THE CURSOR HITS THE LEFT EDGE
>> FIRST, the Ubuntu logo on top gracefully grows into a button of its
>> own, while (at the same time) the Launcher fades and/or slides into
>> view (very nice visual attractions can be achieved here). Once the
>> Launcher is shown, the user can click anywhere outside, at which
>> instant, the Launcher and the Ubuntu button fade out of view kind of
>> in a reverse visual effect.
>>
>> (If anyone can make a mockup of this, I'd really appreciate it)
>>
>> I strongly suggest that Canonical and other decision makers consider a
>> design of this sorts, and not move the Ubuntu button completely out of
>> the very-top-corner. I'm certain a compromise (as above suggestion)
>> that is clever ans usable can be achieved between window controls and
>> Ubuntu button.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
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>> > Eylem Koca wrote on 27/08/11 03:49:
>> >>
>> >> The current design is justified by the motivation to move the window
>> >> control buttons to the top left.
>> >> Apparently, the usability tests for 11.04 design showed that the
>> >> window controls are better on the top left, so they moved the Ubuntu
>> >> button out of that location.
>> >>...
>> >
>> > No, the usability test didn't show anything like that. (How could it
>> > have, when the test environment used only one placement?)
>> >
>> > What it did show was that, except for a bug, everyone managed to close a
>> > window. However, 4 of 11 people clicked the Me menu thinking it might be
>> > the close button.
>> >
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