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[Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Greg Rowles <greg.rowles@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Knut
>
> Sorry to come into this conversation so late. The Gap-Minder software
> seemed really powerful but it came with too many strings attached (we were
> promised a free license but with a recurring data administration fee).
> We've started using google-motioncharts instead. If there are any
> developments on the use of their software though - I'll make sure you know
> about it...
>

Thanks Greg.

Have you made an integration of DHIS 1.4 and GMC similar to what I did with
PHP, or do you upload data to a Google spreadsheet?
Knut


>
> Regards,
> Greg
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>  On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad <olatitle@xxxxxxxxx
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Gapminder was discussed during the Goa workshop in July, here is a
>>> relevant cut from the summary that was sent out by Sundeep:
>>>
>>> --------------
>>> "GapMinder was presented by Greg Rowles from HISP South Africa. This is a
>>> very interesting data visualization tool that has been developed by Dr. Hans
>>> Rossling’s group from Karolinska Institute, in Sweden. Basically, the tool
>>> allows for a dynamic visualization of two related variables in relation to a
>>> reference variable such as population which is depicted as bubbles with the
>>> size of it indicating the relative values. It was pointed out that this tool
>>> is an online system that draws upon google serves. Saptarishi pointed out
>>> that this can be subverted by caching the google services for the particular
>>> country that is being analyzed. Bob pointed out to potential intellectual
>>> property infringement concerns. The tool was liked significantly by all, and
>>> it was agreed that Bharath and Saptarishi would explore how it may be
>>> integrated with the dashboard of DHIS2."
>>> --------------
>>>
>>
>> Ok, I had not read this, obviously. Has any progress been made? Some
>> thinking may be required on how to best integrate - I chose report tables
>> because in a motion chart you obviously want to have more than one numerical
>> variable (i.e. a crosstab of indicators or data elements). It would make
>> sense to relate this to the current JFreeChart options. And also make all
>> charting possibilities readily available from other places in DHIS 2, such
>> as from data entry, since people would often like to visualize what they
>> have just painstakingly entered.
>>
>> We certainly should look at offline caching possibilities. But I don't
>> think it is a showstopper to have to be online either - we have many users
>> who are. Here is a range of other interactive charts we should evaluate for
>> suitability:
>> http://www.amcharts.com/ (not FOSS, but free with a small logo, works
>> offline)
>> http://chart.inetsoft.com/gallery.html
>> http://www.ajaxline.com/10-best-flash-and-silverlight-chart-controls
>> http://www.swivel.com/
>>
>>
>>> Greg told us that in SA they have been working with Gapminder integration
>>> and if I remember correctly have a copy of the code for the previous (pre
>>> Google?) version of the app.
>>>
>>> I though this was called Google trend analyser now. Is Google motion
>>> charts just the same thing or different somehow?
>>>
>>> Motion Charts is the new name of Trendalyzer:
>>
>> http://blogstats.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/trendalyzer-becomes-motion-chart/
>>
>>
>>  Here is a good recent article on motion chart use:
>>
>> http://searchengineland.com/how-to-use-google-analytics-motion-charts-to-maximize-results-24146
>>
>> Here is a java plugin for motion chart, with source code:
>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/SONAR/Motion+Chart+plugin
>>
>> On that note, we also really have to improve our ability to easily import
>> data from various sources - which people will very much want to do now that
>> we have excellent GIS and charting capabilities. I found the Swivel Toolbar
>> for Excel to be helpful in transforming crosstabbed matrix data into
>> relational table format, but that is just the first step.
>> http://www.google.ch/search?q=swivel+toolbar
>>
>> Knut
>>
>> Ola
>>> -------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/10/10 Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>>  On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Saptarshi Purkayastha <
>>>> sunbiz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Knut,
>>>>> I think Bharath has written a module that takes the data and indicators
>>>>> from DHIS2 and displays a motion chart. The only quirk is that you have to
>>>>> be online to be able to see the motion chart, which is a Google lockin to be
>>>>> able to use its docs API.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> RIght, that's what I thought. Is that module available somewhere? Any
>>>> reason its existence has not been communicated widely?
>>>>
>>>> Knut
>>>>
>>>>  ---
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Saptarshi PURKAYASTHA
>>>>> Director R & D, HISP India
>>>>> Health Information Systems Programme
>>>>>
>>>>> My Tech Blog:  http://sunnytalkstech.blogspot.com
>>>>> You Live by CHOICE, Not by CHANCE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/10/10 Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I have quickly set up a proof of concept (using PHP) for displaying
>>>>>> DHIS 2 indicators in Google Motion Charts here:
>>>>>> http://97.107.142.53/mc/index.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  <http://97.107.142.53/mc/index.php>I don't know (and doubt) that
>>>>>> this will work offline (the current solution relies on Google's servers to
>>>>>> provide a Javascript API and serve the Flash app).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reference:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://code.google.com/apis/visualization/documentation/gallery/motionchart.html#Motion_Chart_initial_state
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I attach my PHP code, which I hope can serve as inspiration for
>>>>>> someone on our team (India? VN?) to implement the same functionality as a
>>>>>> DHIS web module in Java.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Knut
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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Cheers,
Knut Staring