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[Greg Rowles <greg.rowles@xxxxxxxxx>]

Currently we're using the same client-script method (although we haven't
finalised our approach). FYI - the Gapminder sample data I presented used
google docs - a definate disadvantage to google client-script approach!

On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Greg Rowles <greg.rowles@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Hi Knut
>>
>>  Sorry to come into this conversation so late. The Gap-Minder software
>> seemed really powerful but it came with too many strings attached (we were
>> promised a free license but with a recurring data administration fee).
>> We've started using google-motioncharts instead. If there are any
>> developments on the use of their software though - I'll make sure you know
>> about it...
>>
>
> Thanks Greg.
>
> Have you made an integration of DHIS 1.4 and GMC similar to what I did with
> PHP, or do you upload data to a Google spreadsheet?
> Knut
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Greg
>>   On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>  On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad <
>>> olatitle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gapminder was discussed during the Goa workshop in July, here is a
>>>> relevant cut from the summary that was sent out by Sundeep:
>>>>
>>>> --------------
>>>> "GapMinder was presented by Greg Rowles from HISP South Africa. This is
>>>> a very interesting data visualization tool that has been developed by Dr.
>>>> Hans Rossling’s group from Karolinska Institute, in Sweden. Basically, the
>>>> tool allows for a dynamic visualization of two related variables in relation
>>>> to a reference variable such as population which is depicted as bubbles with
>>>> the size of it indicating the relative values. It was pointed out that this
>>>> tool is an online system that draws upon google serves. Saptarishi pointed
>>>> out that this can be subverted by caching the google services for the
>>>> particular country that is being analyzed. Bob pointed out to potential
>>>> intellectual property infringement concerns. The tool was liked
>>>> significantly by all, and it was agreed that Bharath and Saptarishi would
>>>> explore how it may be integrated with the dashboard of DHIS2."
>>>> --------------
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, I had not read this, obviously. Has any progress been made? Some
>>> thinking may be required on how to best integrate - I chose report tables
>>> because in a motion chart you obviously want to have more than one numerical
>>> variable (i.e. a crosstab of indicators or data elements). It would make
>>> sense to relate this to the current JFreeChart options. And also make all
>>> charting possibilities readily available from other places in DHIS 2, such
>>> as from data entry, since people would often like to visualize what they
>>> have just painstakingly entered.
>>>
>>> We certainly should look at offline caching possibilities. But I don't
>>> think it is a showstopper to have to be online either - we have many users
>>> who are. Here is a range of other interactive charts we should evaluate for
>>> suitability:
>>> http://www.amcharts.com/ (not FOSS, but free with a small logo, works
>>> offline)
>>> http://chart.inetsoft.com/gallery.html
>>> http://www.ajaxline.com/10-best-flash-and-silverlight-chart-controls
>>> http://www.swivel.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>> Greg told us that in SA they have been working with Gapminder
>>>> integration and if I remember correctly have a copy of the code for the
>>>> previous (pre Google?) version of the app.
>>>>
>>>> I though this was called Google trend analyser now. Is Google motion
>>>> charts just the same thing or different somehow?
>>>>
>>>> Motion Charts is the new name of Trendalyzer:
>>>
>>> http://blogstats.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/trendalyzer-becomes-motion-chart/
>>>
>>>
>>>  Here is a good recent article on motion chart use:
>>>
>>> http://searchengineland.com/how-to-use-google-analytics-motion-charts-to-maximize-results-24146
>>>
>>> Here is a java plugin for motion chart, with source code:
>>> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/SONAR/Motion+Chart+plugin
>>>
>>> On that note, we also really have to improve our ability to easily import
>>> data from various sources - which people will very much want to do now that
>>> we have excellent GIS and charting capabilities. I found the Swivel Toolbar
>>> for Excel to be helpful in transforming crosstabbed matrix data into
>>> relational table format, but that is just the first step.
>>> http://www.google.ch/search?q=swivel+toolbar
>>>
>>> Knut
>>>
>>> Ola
>>>> -------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/10/10 Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>>  On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Saptarshi Purkayastha <
>>>>> sunbiz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Knut,
>>>>>> I think Bharath has written a module that takes the data and
>>>>>> indicators from DHIS2 and displays a motion chart. The only quirk is that
>>>>>> you have to be online to be able to see the motion chart, which is a Google
>>>>>> lockin to be able to use its docs API.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> RIght, that's what I thought. Is that module available somewhere? Any
>>>>> reason its existence has not been communicated widely?
>>>>>
>>>>> Knut
>>>>>
>>>>>  ---
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Saptarshi PURKAYASTHA
>>>>>> Director R & D, HISP India
>>>>>> Health Information Systems Programme
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My Tech Blog:  http://sunnytalkstech.blogspot.com
>>>>>> You Live by CHOICE, Not by CHANCE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/10/10 Knut Staring <knutst@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I have quickly set up a proof of concept (using PHP) for displaying
>>>>>>> DHIS 2 indicators in Google Motion Charts here:
>>>>>>> http://97.107.142.53/mc/index.php
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  <http://97.107.142.53/mc/index.php>I don't know (and doubt) that
>>>>>>> this will work offline (the current solution relies on Google's servers to
>>>>>>> provide a Javascript API and serve the Flash app).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reference:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/apis/visualization/documentation/gallery/motionchart.html#Motion_Chart_initial_state
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I attach my PHP code, which I hope can serve as inspiration for
>>>>>>> someone on our team (India? VN?) to implement the same functionality as a
>>>>>>> DHIS web module in Java.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Knut
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Knut Staring
>>>>>
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