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[Allen Lowe <lallenlowe@xxxxxxxxx>]

So, here's the deal, we can't use Marlin, Marlin is off the table, end
of story. I did like Magellan a lot however.

Thanks,
Allen Lowe


On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Brendan William <school.mame@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I agree with Andrea here, Pantheon Files soindslike a horrible name and
> would draw back many users.
>
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Andrea Basso <voluntatefaber@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> I personally think pantheon-files is a terrible name.
> Marlin is already widely used by many users in several distros other than
> elementary and they'll use our version since Marlin is discontinued, now.
> Keeping using Marlin sounds good, even though could be a bit unfair if
> ammonkey doesn't want us to do that. I see no point in calling it
> pantheon-files, I don't like the idea of marking it as ours. It's against
> open-source philosophy, doesn't help convincing other distros to use it and
> I personally would never install an app which is marked by someone else. You
> know, it makes it sound us like a bit of douchebags.  Plus, its function is
> already clear because we decided to change the icon to something clearer,
> like a folder (don't know if pantheon-files already has that).
>
> Andre Luis, I'm not sure about that, we need to release a beta shortly and
> this would really slow us down.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea Basso
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Kumar Aatish <kumar.aatish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Going by the 'standard' having a unique name for file browser makes sense.
>> It will feel inconsistent otherwise. Also for people who install more than
>> one file browser, similar names would be frustrating.
>> i propose 'Magellan' if people are convinced not to use Marlin.
>>
>> On May 8, 2012 11:09 AM, "satchitb@xxxxxxxxx" <satchitb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with Christian. I know Canonical will be considering Marlin for
>>> 12.10, and I think it will be good if the name is distinctive. 'Files' or
>>> 'Briefcase' is the opposite of distinctive; Files is also being used as a
>>> name by Gnome Shell (for Nautilus), and remember briefcases from Windows 9x?
>>> It's fine if you use 'Files' for the application as you use 'Terminal' for
>>> Pantheon Terminal, but the name itself should be unique.
>>>
>>> On 8 May 2012 03:24, Cassidy James <c@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think "Files" is a fine name; it's not made to be a particularly
>>>> cross-platform app, and any time in doubt you could call it by it's more
>>>> specific name, "Pantheon Files." Similar to how "Terminal" is really
>>>> "Pantheon Terminal." But in this case I think naming it what the user would
>>>> expect is more advantageous than the potential branding opportunity.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, it could even be a bigger "branding" opportunity; imagine if
>>>> Ubuntu moved from Nautilus to Pantheon Files! It'd be the best of both
>>>> worlds because developers would hear about Pantheon while users would get a
>>>> more sensible name.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Cassidy James
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Daniel Foré <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> He's been non-responsive about our attempts to use the LP project. My
>>>>> guess is that he'd be genuinely opposed to us continuing with the name.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do think that Marlin is kind of a silly name that won't make sense to
>>>>> anyone who isn't a big geek about Linux File Managers :p
>>>>>
>>>>> Not terribly concerned with promoting outside of elementary though,
>>>>> tbh. You know me :p
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Christian Dywan
>>>>> <christian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it no option to stick to Marlin, and actually continue it in honor
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> its original author? am may have lost interest, but it's still a great
>>>>>> project he put in place there. Unless he is in fact opposed to that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think "Files" is a bad name. It may make sense to display in the UI,
>>>>>> but it's a mess when you want to actually discuss Mail, Files, Session
>>>>>> and Launcher - you get the idea. Not to mention it's impossible to
>>>>>> promote outside of Elementary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 07.05.2012 12:28, Allen Lowe wrote:
>>>>>> > I honestly think "File Cabinet" might be a good name.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Allen Lowe
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Andre Luis dos Santos
>>>>>> > <dominiosantos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> >> I agree with the taking back the code, but I think that rebranding
>>>>>> >> it to
>>>>>> >> something as generic as "Files" will de-brand the project
>>>>>> >> completaly.
>>>>>> >> Personally I think generic names (like "dock", "files", "music")
>>>>>> >> are mad for
>>>>>> >> applications. The most important parts of Pantheon have a unique
>>>>>> >> brand:
>>>>>> >> wingpanel, plank, switchboard, noise (UGH!), slingshot, etc.... The
>>>>>> >> only app
>>>>>> >> that does not have a so unique brand is Pantheon Terminal. Why
>>>>>> >> debrand
>>>>>> >> Marlin like that? Why don't we proprose and vote on a unique name?
>>>>>> >> Why don't
>>>>>> >> we just rename it to Tunafish? (ok, I'm joking here!)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Just my opinion.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Best regards,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Andre Santos
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 06-05-2012 21:30, Daniel Foré wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hey guys,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> as I'm sure you're well aware, am monkey has decided to stop
>>>>>> >> working on
>>>>>> >> Marlin. As you may also be aware, I asked him if we could have the
>>>>>> >> LP
>>>>>> >> project back. He never responded. So we decided that we're not
>>>>>> >> waiting
>>>>>> >> anymore, we're just gonna take it back finally.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> https://code.launchpad.net/pantheon-files
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> So boom there we go. We took it back.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Best Regards,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Daniel Foré
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> elementaryos.org
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
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