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[Andrea Basso <voluntatefaber@xxxxxxxxx>]

Allen, I can't say I love it but sounds good. Actually, the more I think
about it the more I like it :)

Regards,
Andrea Basso

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Allen Lowe <lallenlowe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> So, here's the deal, we can't use Marlin, Marlin is off the table, end
> of story. I did like Magellan a lot however.
>
> Thanks,
> Allen Lowe
>
>
> On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Brendan William <school.mame@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > I agree with Andrea here, Pantheon Files soindslike a horrible name and
> > would draw back many users.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Andrea Basso <voluntatefaber@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I personally think pantheon-files is a terrible name.
> > Marlin is already widely used by many users in several distros other than
> > elementary and they'll use our version since Marlin is discontinued, now.
> > Keeping using Marlin sounds good, even though could be a bit unfair if
> > ammonkey doesn't want us to do that. I see no point in calling it
> > pantheon-files, I don't like the idea of marking it as ours. It's against
> > open-source philosophy, doesn't help convincing other distros to use it
> and
> > I personally would never install an app which is marked by someone else.
> You
> > know, it makes it sound us like a bit of douchebags.  Plus, its function
> is
> > already clear because we decided to change the icon to something clearer,
> > like a folder (don't know if pantheon-files already has that).
> >
> > Andre Luis, I'm not sure about that, we need to release a beta shortly
> and
> > this would really slow us down.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andrea Basso
> >
> > On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Kumar Aatish <kumar.aatish@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Going by the 'standard' having a unique name for file browser makes
> sense.
> >> It will feel inconsistent otherwise. Also for people who install more
> than
> >> one file browser, similar names would be frustrating.
> >> i propose 'Magellan' if people are convinced not to use Marlin.
> >>
> >> On May 8, 2012 11:09 AM, "satchitb@xxxxxxxxx" <satchitb@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I agree with Christian. I know Canonical will be considering Marlin for
> >>> 12.10, and I think it will be good if the name is distinctive. 'Files'
> or
> >>> 'Briefcase' is the opposite of distinctive; Files is also being used
> as a
> >>> name by Gnome Shell (for Nautilus), and remember briefcases from
> Windows 9x?
> >>> It's fine if you use 'Files' for the application as you use 'Terminal'
> for
> >>> Pantheon Terminal, but the name itself should be unique.
> >>>
> >>> On 8 May 2012 03:24, Cassidy James <c@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I think "Files" is a fine name; it's not made to be a particularly
> >>>> cross-platform app, and any time in doubt you could call it by it's
> more
> >>>> specific name, "Pantheon Files." Similar to how "Terminal" is really
> >>>> "Pantheon Terminal." But in this case I think naming it what the user
> would
> >>>> expect is more advantageous than the potential branding opportunity.
> >>>>
> >>>> In fact, it could even be a bigger "branding" opportunity; imagine if
> >>>> Ubuntu moved from Nautilus to Pantheon Files! It'd be the best of both
> >>>> worlds because developers would hear about Pantheon while users would
> get a
> >>>> more sensible name.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Cassidy James
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Daniel Foré <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He's been non-responsive about our attempts to use the LP project. My
> >>>>> guess is that he'd be genuinely opposed to us continuing with the
> name.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do think that Marlin is kind of a silly name that won't make sense
> to
> >>>>> anyone who isn't a big geek about Linux File Managers :p
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not terribly concerned with promoting outside of elementary though,
> >>>>> tbh. You know me :p
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Christian Dywan
> >>>>> <christian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is it no option to stick to Marlin, and actually continue it in
> honor
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>> its original author? am may have lost interest, but it's still a
> great
> >>>>>> project he put in place there. Unless he is in fact opposed to that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think "Files" is a bad name. It may make sense to display in the
> UI,
> >>>>>> but it's a mess when you want to actually discuss Mail, Files,
> Session
> >>>>>> and Launcher - you get the idea. Not to mention it's impossible to
> >>>>>> promote outside of Elementary.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 07.05.2012 12:28, Allen Lowe wrote:
> >>>>>> > I honestly think "File Cabinet" might be a good name.
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > Allen Lowe
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Andre Luis dos Santos
> >>>>>> > <dominiosantos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>> >> I agree with the taking back the code, but I think that
> rebranding
> >>>>>> >> it to
> >>>>>> >> something as generic as "Files" will de-brand the project
> >>>>>> >> completaly.
> >>>>>> >> Personally I think generic names (like "dock", "files", "music")
> >>>>>> >> are mad for
> >>>>>> >> applications. The most important parts of Pantheon have a unique
> >>>>>> >> brand:
> >>>>>> >> wingpanel, plank, switchboard, noise (UGH!), slingshot, etc....
> The
> >>>>>> >> only app
> >>>>>> >> that does not have a so unique brand is Pantheon Terminal. Why
> >>>>>> >> debrand
> >>>>>> >> Marlin like that? Why don't we proprose and vote on a unique
> name?
> >>>>>> >> Why don't
> >>>>>> >> we just rename it to Tunafish? (ok, I'm joking here!)
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Just my opinion.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Best regards,
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Andre Santos
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> On 06-05-2012 21:30, Daniel Foré wrote:
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Hey guys,
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> as I'm sure you're well aware, am monkey has decided to stop
> >>>>>> >> working on
> >>>>>> >> Marlin. As you may also be aware, I asked him if we could have
> the
> >>>>>> >> LP
> >>>>>> >> project back. He never responded. So we decided that we're not
> >>>>>> >> waiting
> >>>>>> >> anymore, we're just gonna take it back finally.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> https://code.launchpad.net/pantheon-files
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> So boom there we go. We took it back.
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Best Regards,
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> Daniel Foré
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >> elementaryos.org
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
> >>>>>> >>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>> Daniel Foré
> >>>>>
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