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Re: Running App Indicators

 

Rico,

The problem is that currently the theme is shared for all users, so you
would need admin privileges to adjust this. Definitely not desirable.

I've filed the bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/plank/+bug/1053801

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Rico Tzschichholz <ricotz@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Cassidy,
>
> Plank doesn't actually support hiding the indicators. What I meant is if
> elementary decides to hide them then there should be a way to unhide
> them if needed. Which means the shell-plug would have to provide such an
> option (toggle between a reasonable indicator size and 0)
>
> Am 2012-09-20 17:49, schrieb Cassidy James:
> > Rico,
> >
> > Functionally that's the same, sure. But I think the idea is that it
> > should be a setting instead of a theming hack. Users should be able to
> > say, "I want to display running indicators" and flip a switch to do so.
> >
> > On Sep 20, 2012 10:44 AM, "Rico Tzschichholz" <ricotz@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > <mailto:ricotz@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> >
> >     Setting the size to 0 is fairly the same as having them disabled. So
> I
> >     don't really see the need in such an extra key, although adding one
> is
> >     easy. If you insist please file an elementary-tagged bug.
> >
> >     Rico
> >
> >     Am 20.09.2012 01:49, schrieb Daniel Foré:
> >     > Well the idea is that our default apps already more-or-less behave
> >     like
> >     > this and we're kind of pushing 3rd party devs to follow along.
> >     >
> >     > But it sounds like overall there is a pretty strong desire for the
> >     > option to re-enable them for now. Which I think is 100% fair
> >     considering
> >     > we're in the very beginnings of this transition period.
> >     >
> >     > Rico, would it be terribly difficult to add a key to
> >     enable/disable the
> >     > running indicators instead of relying on setting their size to 0?
> >     >
> >     > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Craig <weberc2@xxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:weberc2@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     > <mailto:weberc2@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:weberc2@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >     Isn't that kind of like pulling all street signs/traffic
> lights in
> >     >     excited anticipation for the day when cars have traffic data
> >     >     projected onto the windshield via HUD?
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Sam Tate <s@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:s@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >     >     <mailto:s@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:s@xxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >         In the long run (L+1 or even L+2), I want there to be no
> >     >         difference between an open and closed app. Computers are
> fast
> >     >         enough now (esp. with Luna) that you don't really notice
> the
> >     >         extra delay when you open an app rather than restoring from
> >     >         Minimize.
> >     >         I also want apps to save their state for when you re-open
> >     them,
> >     >         and for the system (not the user) to handle memory
> management.
> >     >
> >     >         However, these are things that need not be addressed now,
> >     and I
> >     >         will go into in more detail (probably with a blog post)
> closer
> >     >         to the time.
> >     >
> >     >         For now, I much prefer the removal of indicators as it
> >     moves us
> >     >         towards this vision.
> >     >
> >     >         SamTate
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >         On 19 September 2012 00:39, ttosttos Sa
> >     <ttosttos@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:ttosttos@xxxxxxxxx>
> >     >         <mailto:ttosttos@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:ttosttos@xxxxxxxxx>>>
> >     wrote:
> >     >
> >     >             +1 on running app indicators unless a simple, _mouse
> only_
> >     >             expose for app windows is available (e.g. long hover
> over
> >     >             dock icon exposing running screens).  There are useful
> >     apps
> >     >             that don't support tabs and, even for those that do,
> >     you may
> >     >             still want to run multiple windows with different
> >     parameters
> >     >             (e.g. a browser with private and non-private settings).
> >     >              Switching focus to a particular instance of an app is
> >     a bit
> >     >             involved today.
> >     >
> >     >             --ttosttos
> >     >
> >     >             On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Daniel Foré
> >     >             <daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >     <mailto:daniel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >     >             wrote:
> >     >
> >     >                 Hey Guys,
> >     >
> >     >                 I've seen a few mails/reports about the current
> >     lack of
> >     >                 running app indicators in Luna. I wanted to get a
> feel
> >     >                 for how people who have been using Luna for a
> >     while feel
> >     >                 about it. Namely, is this something people are
> >     >                 complaining about because they expect it and
> >     aren't used
> >     >                 to it yet, or is this a real problem?
> >     >
> >     >                 Personally, I don't miss them at all. I haven't
> used
> >     >                 them for almost a year now (When Gala was just a
> dream
> >     >                 haha). Luna is so good on resources that it hardly
> >     >                 matters if an app is open or not and you can
> >     easily see
> >     >                 if something is open from Gala's Workspace Overview
> >     >                 since minimize isn't part of our regular workflow.
> But
> >     >                 it also has the added benefit of saving a few
> >     pixels on
> >     >                 the bottom of the dock (since our OOTB default is
> >     >                 hide-on-maximize and not intelli or autohide I
> think
> >     >                 keep the dock small is still important).
> >     >
> >     >                 If we do decide that running app indicators are
> >     >                 important, would it be terribly difficult to make
> >     this a
> >     >                 switch in the desktop plug? We may need to ask
> Rico to
> >     >                 add a key for this since I think we wouldn't want
> to
> >     >                 have this update for every user on the system
> >     (since the
> >     >                 theming is currently stored globally). Because I do
> >     >                 think that there are probably a significant amount
> of
> >     >                 people for which the running indicators just aren't
> >     >                 terribly useful in Luna and it could still remain
> >     as the
> >     >                 default. But hey, that's why I am asking!
> >     >
> >     >                 Best Regards,
> >     >
> >     >                 Daniel Foré
> >     >
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