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["A. \"Xylon\" V." <avlabs314@xxxxxxxxx>]

At least we're doing better than Android in terms of our language
tolerance... XD

On a serious note, last time I read the HIG, it was mostly a set of UX
guidelines though, which could be applied to any language. Unless, of
course, the HIG has gained vala specific stuff...
On Aug 21, 2013 10:51 PM, "Albert Palacios Jimenez" <optimisme@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Hi Jakob,
>
> This is a project worked by volunteers, who are developing other things
> that are more needed right now. Such as a site showing how to fix bugs and
> collaborate with them, or a tutorial on how to develop Vala applications
> for elementary OS.
>
> If you want to contribute, you are welcome to make a proposal of a
> tutorial about Vala bindings to other languages, and how to easily port
> applications using Vala bindings. I am sure the elementary OS team (and the
> GTK community) will be very happy.
>
> Elementary OS is just making a realistic decision choosing one language
> and defining the HIG. This is how great projects grow, and how they stand
> to their principles.
>
> We would love if you understand that some decisions are just for the good
> of the project and its users.
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 21, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen <jaapz.b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> So you want us to document how to build a "elementary style" app in any
> possible language? Thanks but no thanks. IMHO we should provide generic
> goals and guidelines as to how an application should work and what it
> should look like, and preferably describe a set of tools with which you
> could achieve that. Vala is just the tool elementary agreed upon to use for
> core apps, and it makes sense to use that knowledge to also create third
> party apps. If you prefer to use different tools for third party apps,
> that's entirely OK. But it makes no sense to try to document any possible
> tool with which you could make an elementary style app.
>
> --
> Jaap
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Jakob Eriksson <jakob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Then there is an education / PR problem on the elementary.org page.
>>
>> It should be made clear how to make a HIG compliant app in any (where
>> any=C++, hehe) language.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2013-08-21 23:32, Albert Palacios Jimenez wrote:
>> >
>> > I think there are some misunderstandings:
>> >
>> > - The HIG is a must for core elementary OS applications but a
>> recommendation for third party ones.
>> >
>> > - If you develop your application using a Model/View/Controller schema,
>> it will be easy to make it look like an elementary OS just changing the
>> View and leaving the original sources for Models and Controllers.
>> >
>> > This is why a lot of applications work across different systems, they
>> get the "view/look" from the core libraries and work with a non "core"
>> language.
>> >
>> > This is an appropriate way of developing applications, it works well
>> not only for Linux but also for OSX, Windows, iOS, Android, ...
>> >
>>
>>
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