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Official elementary apps will only use Vala (and some legacy C) because it makes it much easier for us, but that doesn't mean you can't use a different language for your 3rd party app.
And the guide on the website is targeted at people who want to contribute to elementary (i.e. official apps) so of course you need to know Vala.
Also, could it be we got slightly off topic?On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:57 PM, A. Xylon V. <avlabs314@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
At least we're doing better than Android in terms of our language tolerance... XDOn a serious note, last time I read the HIG, it was mostly a set of UX guidelines though, which could be applied to any language. Unless, of course, the HIG has gained vala specific stuff...On Aug 21, 2013 10:51 PM, "Albert Palacios Jimenez" <optimisme@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi Jakob,This is a project worked by volunteers, who are developing other things that are more needed right now. Such as a site showing how to fix bugs and collaborate with them, or a tutorial on how to develop Vala applications for elementary OS.If you want to contribute, you are welcome to make a proposal of a tutorial about Vala bindings to other languages, and how to easily port applications using Vala bindings. I am sure the elementary OS team (and the GTK community) will be very happy.Elementary OS is just making a realistic decision choosing one language and defining the HIG. This is how great projects grow, and how they stand to their principles.We would love if you understand that some decisions are just for the good of the project and its users.On Aug 21, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen <jaapz.b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:So you want us to document how to build a "elementary style" app in any possible language? Thanks but no thanks. IMHO we should provide generic goals and guidelines as to how an application should work and what it should look like, and preferably describe a set of tools with which you could achieve that. Vala is just the tool elementary agreed upon to use for core apps, and it makes sense to use that knowledge to also create third party apps. If you prefer to use different tools for third party apps, that's entirely OK. But it makes no sense to try to document any possible tool with which you could make an elementary style app.-- JaapOn Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Jakob Eriksson <jakob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Then there is an education / PR problem on the elementary.org page.It should be made clear how to make a HIG compliant app in any (whereany=C++, hehe) language. On 2013-08-21 23:32, Albert Palacios Jimenez wrote: > > I think there are some misunderstandings: >> - The HIG is a must for core elementary OS applications but a recommendation for third party ones.>> - If you develop your application using a Model/View/Controller schema, it will be easy to make it look like an elementary OS just changing the View and leaving the original sources for Models and Controllers.>> This is why a lot of applications work across different systems, they get the "view/look" from the core libraries and work with a non "core" language.>> This is an appropriate way of developing applications, it works well not only for Linux but also for OSX, Windows, iOS, Android, ...> -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp-- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp-- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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