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Re: Explanation on the concept of subtasks

 

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:30 AM, meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> When I was looking at usability, one thing that struck me about workview was
> that tasks scheduled for other days days automagically disappear from it.
> IMO the user should somehow be informed of that by the name of the view,
> otherwise it's disconcerting.

Could you please file a bug about this?

> I think it's bad practice to design by consensus, though, so personally I
> wouldn't ask users to decide.

I agree.

> Meg
>
> On Monday, April 2, 2012, Radina Matic wrote:
>>
>> Meg seems to be the only native English speaker among us...
>>
>> How about we launch a poll at GTG blog and ask the users what do they
>> prefer?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Radina
>>
>> PS: Apart from this legal connotation, for me personally "actionable" is a
>> mouthful, like having to chew on an oversized gum... :P
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 22:27, meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Actionable" is used in the book as an adjective ("Is it actionable?"
>>> p. 51 of the 2001 English edition), but as a title, you would be
>>> implying that it was a noun, which it is not. The primary meaning of
>>> the adjective is the legal meaning
>>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/actionable. Is there any
>>> place you see it used in the book as a noun? I see "Next Actions", and
>>> "actionable tasks" (as Bertrand mentioned) but not "Actionable". Also,
>>> "actionable tasks" is never used as a category or header in the book,
>>> perhaps because of the ambiguity surrounding this use of the English
>>> term.
>>>
>>> Meg
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Bertrand Rousseau
>>> <bertrand.rousseau@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> > 2012/4/1 meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>> >> The primary definition of "Actionable"  in English a legal term
>>> >> meaning that
>>> >> you can get sued/criminally tried for doing what you are doing, though
>>> >> :)
>>> >
>>> > Well, we sure don't want to imply that our users perform tasks for
>>> > which they may be sued. ;-)
>>> >
>>> > I'm not an English native speaker, so as far as I am concerned, my
>>> > first encounter with the word "actionable" was through GTD and task
>>> > management. Could you (and anyone who knows) tell us if using this
>>> > term is misleading?
>>> >
>>> >> The timeline approach to simplifying complex tasks is outlined by
>>> >> Brett
>>> >> Victor in this article (http://worrydream.com/#!/MagicInk).
>>> >>
>>> >> Meg
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2012/4/1 Izidor Matušov <izidor.matusov@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Am 01.04.2012 06:15, schrieb meg ford:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Also, on the subject of subtasks, do you think it would be
>>> >>>> interesting
>>> >>>> to have a "Timeline" view where users could add and view subtasks as
>>> >>>> connected to specific tasks? Rather than defining them as a "thing",
>>> >>>> we
>>> >>>> could organize a larger task as consisting of smaller tasks, and
>>> >>>> combine
>>> >>>> it with the calendar function (so users would be adding and editing
>>> >>>> subtasks, maybe by drag and drop) along a line that contained the
>>> >>>> main
>>> >>>> task, and wouldn't have to use separate actions to define when, etc.
>>> >>>> I'm
>>> >>>> not sure how to accomplish this in GTK, but I think it would be nice
>>> >>>> to
>>> >>>> allow the user to define many aspects of their tasks simply,
>>> >>>> treating
>>> >>>> each task as an object rather something which is defined through a
>>> >>>> complicated series of  actions via drop-down menus, pop-up windows,
>>> >>>> etc.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> There is a bug/feature request for that:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/495475
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We need somebody who designs and implements that ;)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>    Can these actions be called "To Do"? That would go along with the
>>> >>>>    name (To Do and Task Manager), and the HIG says that strings
>>> >>>> should
>>> >>>>    be as short as possible.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I am against calling them "To Do". Every active task is "To Do" but
>>> >>> we
>>> >>> want to say that you can do it right now. In my opinion, we should
>>> >>> stick to
>>> >>> "Actionable" from GTD or "Next Action" from other ToDo managers.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Bertrand Rousseau
>>>
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Bertrand Rousseau


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