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Re: Explanation on the concept of subtasks

 

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Bertrand Rousseau
<bertrand.rousseau@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:30 AM, meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> When I was looking at usability, one thing that struck me about workview was
>> that tasks scheduled for other days days automagically disappear from it.
>> IMO the user should somehow be informed of that by the name of the view,
>> otherwise it's disconcerting.
>
> Could you please file a bug about this?

Sure, will do.

>
>> I think it's bad practice to design by consensus, though, so personally I
>> wouldn't ask users to decide.
>
> I agree.
>
>> Meg
>>
>> On Monday, April 2, 2012, Radina Matic wrote:
>>>
>>> Meg seems to be the only native English speaker among us...
>>>
>>> How about we launch a poll at GTG blog and ask the users what do they
>>> prefer?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Radina
>>>
>>> PS: Apart from this legal connotation, for me personally "actionable" is a
>>> mouthful, like having to chew on an oversized gum... :P
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 22:27, meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Actionable" is used in the book as an adjective ("Is it actionable?"
>>>> p. 51 of the 2001 English edition), but as a title, you would be
>>>> implying that it was a noun, which it is not. The primary meaning of
>>>> the adjective is the legal meaning
>>>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/actionable. Is there any
>>>> place you see it used in the book as a noun? I see "Next Actions", and
>>>> "actionable tasks" (as Bertrand mentioned) but not "Actionable". Also,
>>>> "actionable tasks" is never used as a category or header in the book,
>>>> perhaps because of the ambiguity surrounding this use of the English
>>>> term.
>>>>
>>>> Meg
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM, Bertrand Rousseau
>>>> <bertrand.rousseau@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> > 2012/4/1 meg ford <meg387@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> >> The primary definition of "Actionable"  in English a legal term
>>>> >> meaning that
>>>> >> you can get sued/criminally tried for doing what you are doing, though
>>>> >> :)
>>>> >
>>>> > Well, we sure don't want to imply that our users perform tasks for
>>>> > which they may be sued. ;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm not an English native speaker, so as far as I am concerned, my
>>>> > first encounter with the word "actionable" was through GTD and task
>>>> > management. Could you (and anyone who knows) tell us if using this
>>>> > term is misleading?
>>>> >
>>>> >> The timeline approach to simplifying complex tasks is outlined by
>>>> >> Brett
>>>> >> Victor in this article (http://worrydream.com/#!/MagicInk).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Meg
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2012/4/1 Izidor Matušov <izidor.matusov@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Am 01.04.2012 06:15, schrieb meg ford:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Also, on the subject of subtasks, do you think it would be
>>>> >>>> interesting
>>>> >>>> to have a "Timeline" view where users could add and view subtasks as
>>>> >>>> connected to specific tasks? Rather than defining them as a "thing",
>>>> >>>> we
>>>> >>>> could organize a larger task as consisting of smaller tasks, and
>>>> >>>> combine
>>>> >>>> it with the calendar function (so users would be adding and editing
>>>> >>>> subtasks, maybe by drag and drop) along a line that contained the
>>>> >>>> main
>>>> >>>> task, and wouldn't have to use separate actions to define when, etc.
>>>> >>>> I'm
>>>> >>>> not sure how to accomplish this in GTK, but I think it would be nice
>>>> >>>> to
>>>> >>>> allow the user to define many aspects of their tasks simply,
>>>> >>>> treating
>>>> >>>> each task as an object rather something which is defined through a
>>>> >>>> complicated series of  actions via drop-down menus, pop-up windows,
>>>> >>>> etc.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> There is a bug/feature request for that:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/495475
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> We need somebody who designs and implements that ;)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>    Can these actions be called "To Do"? That would go along with the
>>>> >>>>    name (To Do and Task Manager), and the HIG says that strings
>>>> >>>> should
>>>> >>>>    be as short as possible.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I am against calling them "To Do". Every active task is "To Do" but
>>>> >>> we
>>>> >>> want to say that you can do it right now. In my opinion, we should
>>>> >>> stick to
>>>> >>> "Actionable" from GTD or "Next Action" from other ToDo managers.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Bertrand Rousseau
>>>>
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> Bertrand Rousseau


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